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⌈ Secret Post #2468 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Miley vs Sinead feud...

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder how many of her choices really are made by other people, though. She usually sticks to a "haters gonna hate, lala not going to listen to you" approach to people calling her out on something. But her response here seems to show that Sinead hit a nerve. Like... really badly.

I mean... if it's all her choice? That's great, though I hope her friends and family are still trying to give her perspective, cause she might royally regret all this soon. But if others really are pushing her into her new "image", it's kind of disturbing and worrisome.

Re: Miley vs Sinead feud...

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder how many of her choices really are made by other people, though. She usually sticks to a "haters gonna hate, lala not going to listen to you" approach to people calling her out on something. But her response here seems to show that Sinead hit a nerve. Like... really badly.

Given that Cyrus had said immediately before this that she saw O'Connor as an inspiration and that Wrecking Ball was an homage to Nothing Compares 2 U it's not that surprising that it would hit her personally. Nor is it surprising that saying that Wrecking Ball was an homage to Nothing Compares 2 U would take O'Connor by surprise.

Actually it seems kind of sad now - two people who in a lot of ways both seem to want to be positive towards each other, and circumstances and life and the culture and misunderstanding have now pushed them to the point where they're apparently beefing. It's a little tragic.

Re: Miley vs Sinead feud...

[(Anonymous)]

I...had no idea her name was spelled that way lmao. I knew of the video from that episode of I Love the 90's, and since it's pronounced 'shineigh', I had no idea there was a silent d in there. Now I think the whole wank between them is hilarious

Re: Miley vs Sinead feud...

[elialshadowpine]

I could see both scenarios, tbh. I'm not privy to Miley's personal life so I don't know (and I doubt any of us do). I'm not saying that Sinead may not have a point, either -- because what she's suggesting is entirely possible. But I've never met anyone who would react well to being told that their choices are not actually their choice.

(Example: Have you ever seen a discussion in regards to feminism where someone suggests that wearing high heels or wearing makeup isn't an actual choice but something that women are assumed to do by the patriarchy? And to some degree, it's true that things like makeup and high heels (esp in certain social circles and careers) are very much expected as a part of being feminine/professional feminine). If you haven't ever seen one of these discussions, they usually go poorly, with multitudes of women speaking up to say that no, it's their choice, fuck off. Which, I personally take a more middle-road approach; social expectation is a factor, but people have a right to do what they want anyway.)

I think the situation with Miley is similar in that she probably is being encouraged by her managers, etc. At the same point, from everything I can tell, she's really into it herself. Is it a smart move? Well, it depends. I'd say in her case it's not so much that sex sells as it is that controversy sells, and there's certainly enough of that. It sounds like she's into what she's doing, and doesn't care much about the possible consequences.

People seem to assume that nobody in her personal sphere are warning her about what she's doing. Judging by how much of a knee-jerk reaction she has when someone brings it up, I'd bet that it's not the first time she's heard it. I think it's a situation where she's likely going to have to crash and burn before she learns anything.

... and jeez, I wrote way too much about a celebrity that I'm not even a fan of. This whole thing with her has been on my FB feed and around LJ/DW/etc way too much, lol.

Re: Miley vs Sinead feud...

[ecoerrante]

In fairness, when I've seen discussions about wearing high heels and/or make up being the result of exceptions from society, the side saying that usually comes off pretty patronizing. When that happens, no matter how right you may be, people are going to get their hackles up because that tends to rub them wrong.

As for Miley...I have no clue what this is even about. I'd heard something about a connection, but prior to this post I didn't know what was going on. From what I'm reading, it *sounds* like O'Connor had good intentions and possibly even good points, but managed to word things in a way that was unfortunate [for lack of a better word], and evoked the same defensive action. I also kind of wonder if something like this was part of the cause of the rift Miley has with her father [...or, at least supposedly?].