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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-07 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2470 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2470 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck, Teen Wolf, Supernatural and Sherlock]


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03.
[Supernatural]


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04.
[Watashi ga motenai no wa dou kangaetemo omaera ga warui]


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05.
[Agents of SHIELD]


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06.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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07.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[World of Warcraft]


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09.
[Pacific Rim]


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10.
[Richard III in "The White Queen"]


















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[identity profile] antialiasis.livejournal.com 2013-10-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
As others have pointed out above me, the Bechdel test is completely meaningless as a metric for judging individual movies because that's not what it's for - it's an easy-to-define bog-simple standard that's a nice way to illustrate in an unambiguous way the stark disparity in gender representation over a large sample of movies. It's for analyzing trends, not individual films. It's actually really good at making a point about trends, but whether an individual film passes or fails the Bechdel test has virtually nothing to do with how feminist it is.

I like the Mako Mori test in principle, but defining it is a lot muddier (what counts as "getting her own narrative arc"?) so it's less suitable for this kind of broad trend analysis (it would be interesting to see the results if someone tried to do that, though). And its origin kind of irritates me - I saw Pacific Rim after seeing the Mako Mori test discussed and was expecting her to be amazing, but as far as I could tell she didn't have a narrative arc so much as a generic action hero level of backstory. She had issues, which was nice, but the story didn't exactly follow her efforts to battle her inner demons and overcome them or anything - it was just she's too emotionally involved to be able to pilot a Jaeger because she lived through a kaiju attack, then now she's not, now appreciate our CGI. She had more of an arc than the main dude, and a similar level to your average male action hero, but that's not exactly saying much.

So, well, Mako Mori test meaning the absolute minimal baseline of decent female character development, sure, that's fitting, but she is not the ideal female character should aspire to.