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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-07 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2470 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2470 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck, Teen Wolf, Supernatural and Sherlock]


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03.
[Supernatural]


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04.
[Watashi ga motenai no wa dou kangaetemo omaera ga warui]


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05.
[Agents of SHIELD]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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07.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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08.
[World of Warcraft]


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09.
[Pacific Rim]


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10.
[Richard III in "The White Queen"]


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #353.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-10-08 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, they're both equally flawed, if necessary, baseline tests to me. The Bechdel Test doesn't prevent two women interacting from being shallow and unimportant background characters, while the Mako Mori Test doesn't prevent a whole universe full of men with a variety of relationships with each other from being populated by a single Exceptional Woman who is only an acceptable character because she's "one of the boys".

It's a little better if you combine them, like, say a movie has: A) At least two female characters, B) who interact with each other, C) and each get their own narrative arcs, C) that are not supporting a man's story. But even that has flaws (Fast and Furious 6, of all things, technically passes). So it just goes to show that these kinds of basic tests are not good for determining good character, but rather, demonstrating how fucked up it is that half the entire adult human population has to claw their way into relevance when it comes to the stories we tell.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The Bechdel test isn't flawed because it was precisely designed as a baseline test. It's meant to show how many films even fail the bare minimum.

The point isn't to say that if it passes it's a feminist film. It's to say that if it fails, it's very likely very fucked up in its representation of women, barring a few exceptions.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-10-08 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me, that should have been "equally flawed, if necessary, as more than baseline tests". My bad.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, now. Fast and Furious 6 may have disregarded the laws of physics entirely, but it had a lot of bright spots (including the fact that Paul Weller got almost no dialog).