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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-07 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2470 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2470 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck, Teen Wolf, Supernatural and Sherlock]


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03.
[Supernatural]


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[Watashi ga motenai no wa dou kangaetemo omaera ga warui]


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05.
[Agents of SHIELD]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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07.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[World of Warcraft]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Richard III in "The White Queen"]


















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I've never really liked the The Bechdel Test

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Because context doesn't matter - two women could be talking about their kids, if one of the kids is a boy, FAIL, is all of the kids are girls, PASS.

I want the Hello, Women Make Up Half the World's Population Test (In other words, is there more than one significant female character in the work?).

I want the No, Really, I Actually Do Exist Outside of a Relationship Test (In other words, if a woman is a love interest or potential love interest, is she an actual dimensional character beyond that?)

I want the Actually, It Just Makes an Ass Out of You Test (In other words, do you imply that your assumptions about your female characters only apply to some women, some of the time?)

Re: I've never really liked the The Bechdel Test

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Because context doesn't matter - two women could be talking about their kids, if one of the kids is a boy, FAIL, is all of the kids are girls, PASS.

For fucks' sake, the rule states a MAN. The "context doesn't matter" only because you're an idiot who thinks everyone's as stupid as you and incapable of understanding what it's about.

Re: I've never really liked the The Bechdel Test

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I should have said two women talking about their grandparents, then grandfathers, FAIL and grandmothers, PASS. By the way, boys do become men and they are still someone's kids. I just meant that the test doesn't distinguish what the conversation is about, like, say, family.

Re: I've never really liked the The Bechdel Test

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this. One of my problems with Pacific Rim is that Del Toro talks about really wanting his female lead to be a strong character who isn't there just as a love interest etc, and I admire him a lot for that, but why not people the film with a lot more women? There were lots of characters that could have been women, including the comedy scientists.

I did enjoy it, but that one thing felt a real shame. Woody Allen does a better job on all of your tests.