[ SECRET POST #2470 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2470 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck, Teen Wolf, Supernatural and Sherlock]


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03.
[Supernatural]


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04.
[Watashi ga motenai no wa dou kangaetemo omaera ga warui]


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05.
[Agents of SHIELD]


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06.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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07.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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08.
[World of Warcraft]


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[Pacific Rim]


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10.
[Richard III in "The White Queen"]


















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Comments

[iggy]

Yeah this so much. It's interesting that the ships that fandom seems to be throwing a fit over existing are interracial? Hmmmm.

[hwc]

Couldn't a case be made that writers only promise ~platonic friendship~ with interracial male/female leads? Obviously that doesn't count for Uhura/Spock, but I've never seen the SHE NEEDS NO MAN argument. (But I'm not in ST fandom either).

But at least the Elementary writers keep saying that there won't be a romantic relationship between the two. Would they discount the possibility if Joan were white?

(Note: I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I'm actually one of those nasty people who seems to ship all the platonic friends (Joan/Sherlock <3) and wouldn't mind if the writers broke their promises. It's such a shame that the shows were they're not pushing for a romantic endgame are also the only ones who do chemistry between characters and believable relationships right.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm actually one of those nasty people who seems to ship all the platonic friends (Joan/Sherlock <3) and wouldn't mind if the writers broke their promises.

Have hope. For 7 years, Chris Carter said Mulder and Scully would never be involved and then they just sorta were together.

[hwc]

I'd feel bad for all the other fans for whom their platonic relationship is a major attraction, but at the same time I'm just totally convinced that Sherlock's already in love with Joan and just not doing anything about it he's her ex-client and an ex-addict and he just wants her to be happy no matter what even if it means loving her from ~afaaaaaar~.

[(Anonymous)]

Omg, me too. I mean, I'm basically convinced that all Sherlocks are fecklessly in love with all Watsons, but Lucy Liu is so stunningly gorgeous that it takes it to a whole new level for me. Lol.

[iggy]

I'm pretty sure of the ships mentioned only Joan/Sherlock promised friendship?

The rest have been left pretty up in the air. I do prefer Joan/Sherlock as friends myself, but I wouldn't drop the show or anything if they paired them. On the other hand I really like Mako/Raleigh and am kind of thinking Ichabod/Abbie is looking cute.

[hwc]

From the way everyone was going on about it I thought WoG said that Ichabod and Abbie would stay platonic as well. I don't actually know, I only got into the show yesterday. :P

I actually think that I'd prefer them to remain friends but that might be mostly to due to Katrina still being around. I can't see them saving her during the show as I feel that that would destroy the "only Ichabod and Abbie alone can stand against the forces of darkness" vibe, so my guess that she'll either tragically die during a season finale or that they'll save her at the very end of the show. If it's the former I might come around to Ichabod/Abbie, but as long as Katrina's around I'd prefer it if they stayed platonic.

Funny thing is, I actually thought Mako and Raleigh were together at the end of the movie. The last scene where they're drifting at sea and the jets/helicopters fly over them had such strong romantic undertones that the Team Platonic people in fandom completely caught me by surprise.

[(Anonymous)]

Silly story. At the end of Pacific Rim, my friend and I were both mentally screaming, "PLEASE DON'T KISS!" because the romantic tone you mentioned was pretty damn tangible. Our reaction was mostly because it would have felt cliche as hell (yes I realize the film was already packed to the gills with tropes). Even though I'm a big time Mako/Raleigh shipper, I really preferred the forehead touching as it felt more intimate and symbolic. It also allowed people to interpret their undeniably close relationship as romantic or platonic (which was nice since most action films have an in your face kiss or love scene for the hero, regardless of if there was any build up for it.)

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's just reading for something objectionable. 2 of my best friends hate Spock/Uhura but they're both squeeing about Abbie/Ichabod. I think maybe you're just searching.

[iggy]

Well ST is sort of different because it has a built in fanbase for a pairing that contradicts Spock/Uhura, but I do think that saying that Uhura 'don't need a man' or whatever can be racially tinged.

But a lot of the same fans who get really bent out of shape over Ichabbie are the ones who behave that way about Joan/Sherlock and Mako/Raleigh. There is absolutely a racial component at play in some of these situations imo.

[(Anonymous)]

I like Spock/Uhura, but I want Abbie/Ichabod to stay platonic. It's not the slash getting in the way of this one. I just don't see any romantic sparks between them. The have great chemistry yes, but as friends more than lovers.

I would also have loved a lot of white/white couples to stay platonic. Often, espeically in movies, the love story feels tacked on, just so the hero can have a trophy to carry home and fuck after his world-saving work is done.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Also, personally I am against Joan/Sherlock because to me (and for a lot of people I spoke) it has less to do with Joan being PoC and Sherlock white, than it would look uncomfortably like the only way we're ever gonna have a Watson/Holmes canon pairing on TV is if it's het.

[(Anonymous)]

I was annoyed with the Spock/Uhura because I didn't like that the writers seemed to think there had to be a romance in the film. I had the same reaction to the added on romance in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

(I also had problems with the idea of Spock while he was a teacher having a relationship with a student.)

[iggy]

I definitely get the teacher/student thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Added-in romance? Trillian/Arthur, if that's what you're referring to - or at least his interest in her - is canon. I mean, it's in the books.

[(Anonymous)]

It was her interest in him that I had a problem with.

[(Anonymous)]

There are a good number of Reese/Carter shippers in the PoI fandom, and though I might not be hanging out in the right (wrong) places, there's not much bashing of the pairing or of her. (I don't ship them personally - the annoying-big-brothers dynamic she has with both Reese and Finch amuses the hell out of me - but I also think if PoI were a 'buzzy' show like SH is already turning out to be, there'd be even more fanwork for them out there.)