[ SECRET POST #2470 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2470 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck, Teen Wolf, Supernatural and Sherlock]


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03.
[Supernatural]


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[Watashi ga motenai no wa dou kangaetemo omaera ga warui]


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05.
[Agents of SHIELD]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[World of Warcraft]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Richard III in "The White Queen"]


















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

ACD's view was that gay men were sick, so no.

[seventh_seal]

Quote?

[(Anonymous)]

Please see my reply to anon below for quote. There have been several scholars who read homoerotic subtext, or at least Holmes as a gay man, in the stories, most notably "Strangers" by Graham Robb. A really good book on the subject, I recommend it.

[seventh_seal]

Thanks for the intel, I will check out Robb.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that's something I've never heard, and I have read a lot by and about Doyle.

But there isn't even any real subtext between Holmes and Watson in the original stories. They're very close friends and roommates but if you want to get anything more than that you have to invent things between the lines and reconstrue a lot of the stuff Watson says about himself and about Holmes. If you want some concrete evidence that Watson is not into Holmes, compare his descriptions of the various ladies he totally crushes on with his description of Holmes. There's a huge tonal difference.

[seventh_seal]

Yep, that's my admittedly very vague and dated impression of the stories as well. But still I wonder if there are some, like, scholars who read homoeroticism into the stories.

I can't imagine Doyle ever saying anything like Ew, homosexuals/sodomites - so I was curious whether the anon you replied to may have been referring to a passage from the books that would suggest that. Unless the anon is just informing me about what they perceive to be the mentality of Doyle's times.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm thinking the anon I replied to is just doing that thing were one assumes that the stereotypical perception of an era reflects the opinions held by each and every person who lived at the time.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. No, I am basing it on something Doyle actually said. The quote, if I recall correctly, was in relation to the Wilde prosecution, and he said "[such men] are more fit subjects for the consulting room [i.e. a doctor] than the courts" which was slightly more enlightened than general opinion which was still towards criminalising it.

I do have a lot of background in 19th century British social history and have read widely both about Doyle (as I write H/W slash, heh) and the period.

[(Anonymous)]

I see the phrase "H/W slash" and my mind goes IMMEDIATELY to House and Wilson rather than Holmes and Watson. (facepalm)

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Well, House is deliberately based on the Holmes character ( albeit very loosely) so no wonder. But I meant Holmes/Watson. Not, for the love of puppies "ACD Johnlock". Yuk.

[(Anonymous)]

THEY STILL HELD HANDS BEHIND THE CURTAINS

GAAAAAAY

[(Anonymous)]

I hold hands with my bestie, I'm not fucking her though.

/sigh, modern readings of historical customs

[(Anonymous)]

Source?