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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2471 ]


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blitzwing: ([spn] sam)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2013-10-08 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think if a female character had the kind of interactions with Dean that Cas has, or vice versa, that they would leave the relationship as platonic.

That's not necessarily heterocentric... but it's something. It's either heterocentric, because it won't develop that kind of relationship among two males when the same potential is there, or...

it's misogynistic as hell, because they're refusing to write female characters as capable of any sort of use/role outside of a romantic/sexual one, despite developing male characters along the same lines.

Which one is it? Maybe both!

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's not necessarily true...there's Charlie Bradbury! (TBH, I only remembered her today because TNT ran The Girl With The Dungeon And Dragon Tattoo this morning.) she's been on three times (soon to be four) and she's not a romantic/sexual interested character. She's also quite knowledgeable. She's also well liked among fans!
blitzwing: ([spn] sam)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2013-10-09 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but...don't get me wrong, I like Charlie and all, but she's just a perfect example of how male and female sexuality is treated differently in the media.

The only young attractive re-occuring female that isn't a love interest is a lesbian? What does that say about the show's ability to show females that aren't in a romantic/sexual thing with the main recurring males? That a woman has to be literally unattracted to *all* males to escape that trope?

Then there's the make-out scene, I think in the episode you mentioned. She makes out with another female, and it's really creepy and fetishized. They even have Dean going "awww yeah" and smirking creepily. Lesbianism as a performance for straight or bi/pan males is hardly groundbreaking.

I don't mean to be goal-post shifting on you, but it never even occurred to me that Charlie could count as an exception to what I said, because she's explicity a lesbian, (the only recurring character to have their orientation stated outright, iirc) and thus obviously not a love interest for dudes. It's also pretty sad that she is the only female character to be well-liked among the largely-female fanbase--what does it say that a character has to be lesbain, and thus extremely unlikely to be a love interest for the reoccuring males, to gain acceptance?