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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2471 ]


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Re: When did gender become a thing for you?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"How you meant it" and whether it was understood means jackshit qhen the effect is still a reinforcement of hurtful gender roles.
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Re: When did gender become a thing for you?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-10-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Okay well. I was using it to describe myself. I don't consider it to be a negative word. I have never thought of being a tomboy to be more negative or positive than my sisters who were not tomboys. It is just what I am. And considering it is my descriptor for myself, I can call myself whatever I want.
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Re: When did gender become a thing for you?

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-09 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
To whom?

Some words wind up being very far removed from their original connotation, whatever that was. I'll be the first to get upset when a word or phrase implies that masculinity is "better" or "more speshul" but I simply never got that sense from "tomboy". I did have internalized prejudices, and maybe I still do, but that word just meant "girl who has some or many boyish traits". Any speshul-snowflakey-ness I got from it was from being a 10 year old kid who thought I was super special because I was different.

Re: When did gender become a thing for you?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
that word just meant "girl who has some or many boyish traits

But that's the thing: Why is it "boyish" to climb trees or play Army, or go hunting? It's not. These are perfectly valid things for girls to do, and the reason I hate "tomboy" every time I hear it is because it's a word that says "you're doing *~boy~* things, take this label!" When, no. I'm not doing BOY things. I'm just doing things.
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Re: When did gender become a thing for you?

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-09 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean I definitely agree with you on that (about those not being ~boy~ things). But many people still define them as such, language isn't perfect, and it's just sort of a catch-all term to describe a certain personality type/set of interests. It's also useful when talking about children and gender roles.

I'm glad you pointed all this out though. It's given me something to think about :)