[ SECRET POST #2471 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2471 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I always romance Anders and I'm generally sympathetic to his cause (and, for one, loved his character development in all its twisted deliciousness) because I'm extremely pro-mage and anti-Templar, but, Jesus, that dialogue option when you allow him to live and run away with you is just cringe-worthy. Why, why couldn't Hawke let him come with him/her yet at the same time acknowledge his betrayal of Hawke's trust and how fucked up this whole situation was in some way? Would that be such a difficult thing to do?

[saku]

yeah i dont... the whole thing was so messed up and unnecessary imo.

like ok i actually like anders but there are some things he says and does that i can't really forgive. like if you do sell fenris back to danarius anders actually approves of this - he, a mage, who has suffered at the hands of those in power over him all his life, would rejoice at a slave being returned to his former master, all because fenris rightfully did not like or trust mages. that really pissed me off because it's really not that difficult to see where fenris is coming from, and i myself am a mage sympathiser. in the tevinter imperium the mages have all the power; fenris obviously isn't accustomed to mages being oppressed and since they were the source of pretty much all his suffering he's obviously going to be hostile towards them. but anders basically says at one point that fenris let one bad experience ruin him or whatever, and it makes me really mad. if you kill anders, fenris doesn't really give a shit. i mean he might not be weeping at anders' feet but at least he doesn't fuckin find joy in anders' death.

and the whole mage-templar thing like... i get why anders did what he did. the tinder had been piling up for ages at that point and all it needed was a spark, one that was arguably necessary for change that'd been a long time coming. but the way he went about doing what he did, and at the time in which he did it, was so shitty. don't get me wrong, i personally would like to see each and every chantry burn to the ground, but jesus. the whole issue required an artistic level of delicacy imo and he blew it (literally and figuratively). i wholeheartedly believe that at best the chantry should be dismantled but i see a lot of ways in which that could have been attempted without costing scores of guiltless lives. i don't really like the whole ends-justify-the-means approach that was taking especially since i don't think that type of mindset is ultimately just.

and in light of all this, that he deems himself a worthy vessel for justice is laughable. i don't have much da2 dlc and i haven't finished awakenings (he shows up in that one right?) so i don't know a whole lot about the circumstances but i know anders is a warden so he's obviously got the taint and harbouring a good spirit seems like a bad idea when you've got the taint. justice seems more like vengeance at its worst, which is arguably not a good spiritual trait, so idk justice seems kinda corrupt. plus what was that bit where justice comes out and summons shades?? how the hell is a good spirit gonna call on demons to fight alongside it. ?? sketch as hell

so like... on one hand i want to cut anders some slack since hes clearly not wholly in control of himself, and the good spirit he once acted as a husk for isn't completely "good" anymore imo (plus he makes that sad face and i can't handle the sad face), but on the other hand, he's done a lot of stupid shit and he has a lot of really questionable opinions and it drives me insane. i loved him so much until the whole fenris thing and it all went downhill from there.

but he's a really dynamic character i think. he might have done some shitty things but he's a darn good character, even if not a wholly good person (imo).

da

[(Anonymous)]

Justice and Anders both show up in Awakening. (As separate characters - they don't merge until after that game.) I'd really recommend playing it if you're a DA2 Anders fan, and keeping both of them in your party as much as possible. It gives a lot of explanation and context to the wreck of an abomination you meet in DA2, and makes the whole thing a lot more tragic, since it's basically a case of two decent, well-intentioned entities managing to completely fuck things up beyond repair.

(And neither the reasoning behind the merging nor the impetus to stir shit up with the Chantry necessarily come from where you might expect them to.)

Re: da

[saku]

yeah i'm in the process of playing it now, but i got distracted by a new da2 playthrough so i've kinda put it on hold. i've read every detail on the wiki though so i get the gist of it, i think. still on my to-do list tho