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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-12 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2475 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2475 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. [repeat]


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[Supernatural, Watchmen]


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[a case of exploding mangoes (2008 novel)]


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05.
[Brothers in Arms]


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[Agents of SHIELD ]


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[Transformers: IDW Generation One]


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[Sarah Michelle Gellar]


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[Young Guns 2]




















Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-12 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this is not a newbie question, more a "did someone more obsessive than me ever figure this out" question, but has anyone ever come up with a good answer for when "Charles Augustus Milverton" was set?

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
There's never any definitive answer to any of these things.

My favorite theory about that one is that Charles Augustus Milverton takes place shortly before The Final Problem, that Milverton was a minion of Moriarity, and that the death of Milverton was one of the factors which led Moriarity, feeling particularly closely hounded, to bring affairs to a head with HOlmes.
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Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-10-12 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically, no one knows anything. At all. Because Watson explicitly admits, at the start of the story, that he's totally lying his ass off about some things due to the story's highly illegal sensitive nature.

But if you want to assume Watson only lied by omission, it is either before 1889 or after 1894 (because Watson seems to be living at Baker Street). It is also not very early, because Holmes mentions that he and Watson have lived together "for some years". The physical description of Watson provided is of a strongly-built man, which doesn't fit his just-returned-from-war description from 1881, when he was extremely frail and scrawny, yet would also seem to refer to someone who's no older than middle-aged (plus, he and Holmes sprint quite a long ways and scale a high wall at full speed), so it had to be several years before 1904, when the story was published and Holmes and Watson were around 50ish.

So it was probably in the mid-to-late 1880s, but possibly just after Holmes returned from the dead.
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Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-12 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
^the reason why I love Holmesian fan theories
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Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

[personal profile] pantasma 2013-10-13 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Going off of this, did anyone else notice an instance around the middle of the story in which his middle name became "August"? I've been trying to figure out if it's just a misprint in the collection I read (of which my library has 3 copies, but no other versions), or if it was yet another one of Doyle's slips.

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I just did a word search on my Project Gutenberg copy and found only Augustus, not August.
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Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

[personal profile] pantasma 2013-10-15 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Okie-doke, thanks. ^^

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's probably a misprint, because I never saw anything of the kind in my copy. In any case, it wouldn't be a continuity error of Doyle's, because Doyle didn't come up with the name. Milverton was based on a RL blackmailer called Charles Augustus Howell.

/such a nerd

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Probably a misprint - I don't see that in either of the two copies I have. Do you have the exact line/quote, for comparison's sake?