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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-12 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2475 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2475 ⌋

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[Supernatural, Watchmen]


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[a case of exploding mangoes (2008 novel)]


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[Brothers in Arms]


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[Transformers: IDW Generation One]


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[Sarah Michelle Gellar]


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dreemyweird: (austere)

ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-12 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
By the way, this thread above just made me recall reading The Final Problem and The Empty House for the first time and then learning about ACD's wish to kill Holmes off. My reaction? I was angry at ACD's readers and publishers, and I wished I could go back in time and somehow magically allow him to do whatever the fuck he wanted with his character.
For quite some time I'd also been deeply convinced that any modern publisher of Doyle's stories who is also a Sherlock Holmes fan should not print any of the stories written after The Final Problem. I was a judgemental kid, I guess.

Anyone felt anything similar? I thought many people would have experienced something like this, but I saw astonishingly few.
Edited 2013-10-12 22:59 (UTC)
rosehiptea: (Default)

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2013-10-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't feel that bad about ACD, though I agree he had the right to do whatever the fuck he wanted with Holmes and the fans should have left him alone.

But when I found out Kafka wanted all his work destroyed after he died, I felt really weird about reading Kafka. I still want to read him because I think he's a genius, but ... man, he didn't want me or anyone else reading this stuff so do I have any right?
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-12 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the situation with Kafka is quite different. If he wanted his manuscripts to be destroyed, he probably should've done so himself (seeing as after somebody's death things often don't happen in accordance with the wishes of the deceased). And in any case, publishing them didn't do him any harm; it was disrespectful, perhaps, but he was already dead. [and I love his work, too]

Doyle, on the other hand? a) needed money, b) was harrassed by Holmes fans, and c) disliked Holmes. He didn't just "want no one to read his stuff", he wanted neither to write nor to publish it; but was eventually forced to do both. I don't feel the same way about it now (not publishing some of his stories was an extreme opinion, and a stupid one, too - albeit I was, like, five), but I'm definitely still bitter.
blueonblue: (penny century)

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] blueonblue 2013-10-13 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Max Brod was always trying to get Kafka to write more and pushing him to publish. Trusting the burning of your work to the person who has been trying to get it published - there may have been some very mixed feelings.

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

(Anonymous) 2013-10-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I never felt that way. But I don't think it ever struck me like that. I think I was just happy to have him back, honestly - happy that he'd come back. I was nowhere near a critical enough reader to have that kind of reaction. And it probably didn't help that IMO the stories in the Return are on the whole the best in the whole canon.

What I do remember very well is the wonderful Christopher Morley introduction they had in the edition that I had - which really set the tone of everything, for me. It really sticks in my mind, and even now, it's definitely very evocative of how I feel about Sherlock Holmes.
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Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2013-10-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I have to agree on that -- those stories don't read like something someone wrote because they were under pressure and needed money. That's why I was a little surprised when I found that out. (I read the stories in a cheap edition without notes so I found out much later.)
intrigueing: (buffy eww)

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-10-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I recall, that I simultaneously knew a LOT about the timeline and characters of Sherlock Holmes before I read them, and had never, ever seen a single screen adaptation of any kind before I read them. So I knew all about Doyle's failed attempt to kill Holmes off before I had ever read a Holmes story. I think I must've read an article about the stories or something.

But this (together with a couple other anecdotes) actually tickled me so pink it was part of the reason I started reading Sherlock Holmes in the first place. I guess I was exactly the opposite of you as a kid. ;)
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Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] tei 2013-10-13 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god this was exactly me. And to be honest I'm still waiting for the screen adaption that dares to leave him dead.

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Late to the party, but: this fic (http://archiveofourown.org/works/98099) is totally my new headcanon for why he started writing again.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: ACD Holmes reading memories

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-14 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I can't see Holmes/Watson, but I've always loved this fic <3 If nothing else, it is a beautiful fanon.