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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-12 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2475 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2475 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. [repeat]


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[Supernatural, Watchmen]


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[a case of exploding mangoes (2008 novel)]


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05.
[Brothers in Arms]


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[Agents of SHIELD ]


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[Transformers: IDW Generation One]


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08.
[Sarah Michelle Gellar]


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[Young Guns 2]




















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Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
No, Holmes isn't jealous. He doesn't see marriage or love as something he wants to involve himself in, but he sees emotions as the enemy of reason. Still, he seems happy enough for Watson's sake.

Watson's wife doesn't play a prominent part in the stories except for "The Sign of Four". She pops up now and then, mostly as an aside (such as Holmes inquiring after her health and other polite civilities) and occasionally encouraging Watson to join Holmes on a case, but that's it.

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Well, he isn't happy for Watson's sake in The Sign Of Four (in fact, he tells him to his face that he will not congratulate him and then right afterwards starts using cocaine in front of him while pointedly remarking that it's all he has to look forward to now, while knowing full well that his drug use is really upsetting to Watson). Not terribly gracious at all, IMO.

However, he must have shaped up after that, because in the rest of the stories set during Watson's marriage, Holmes is pretty polite and accommodating about it and doesn't make any more disparaging remarks, even though he mentions a couple times after going a while without seeing him that he gets lonely without Watson. On the whole, though, he seems less jealous than he is simply disappointed that Watson moved away.

He is however, pretty jealous about Watson's second wife, whoever she is, describing Watson as "having abandoned me for a wife", and calling Watson selfish for getting married.

As you can tell, there's a lot of different interpretations and speculation about the stuff that's read in between the lines. The Sherlock Holmes stories are full of subtext -- I don't mean subtext as in gay subtext, or romantic subtext (why oh why has that word been co-opted in fandom for such specific applications?) -- just subtext in the sense of having a lot of actions and dialogue whose meanings are never 100% spelled out or understood. It's a common feature of books written in first-person-narrative mode, and ACD was always good at it.

Re: Sherlock Holmes canon vs fanon

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* Maybe it's a issue of tone, but I took those remarks to be Holmes' dry humor, not that he was seriously snubbing Watson about his marriage. Given that Holmes is complimentary about Watson's choice of spouse and is gracious about it later, that interpretation makes a lot more sense.