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I doubt it. I live in California, and until very recently, we had our own budget crisis that affected me very personally. I still voted socially rather than economically.

I don't want to sound condescending myself because I don't mean to be, but the thing about money is that no matter how much you have, it's never enough to meet your needs. When my husband and I started out, we made so little, it was ridiculous, but we got by. Over the years, the more hours and days and months and years we put in, the more we began to make, the more our needs increased. We'll always need more, we'll always want more. My kids, when they get to college age...well, we'll do what we have to do just like we've always done.

On the other hand, a woman's right to choose, a gay person's right to equality under the law, these are not fluid things. Not negotiable based on how comfortable I am in my life. They are fixed and they are more important than how much I get taxed or what level of college my kids can go to.

I don't want to be poor, I really don't, and I want my kids to go to a good college, but more than that, if my son were gay or my daughter found herself in need of an abortion one day, I want to be able to say that I did what I could in those areas as well.

I'm sorry to hear that you suffered during the budget crisis. Hopefully things will start to look up for your family soon.

I'm not faulting you for voting socially, or denying that it's possible for people to do so during economically stressful times. I just don't imagine that it's the norm; in another post I showed how 87% of American thought the economy was the biggest issue in the 2012 election. I imagine that will still be the case 3 years from now.

You're absolutely right in saying that money never seems to be enough to meet your needs. But surely you can understand why some would choose to do all they can to prevent losing it? I don't think I could ever vote for someone I know for a fact would cause my family economic hardship. That wouldn't mean that I would necessarily be thrilled with the other candidate, but it all comes down to priorities.

I admire that you have your ideals and stick to them. But whatever I may feel towards social issues, the deciding factor when I consider who is going to be in power for the next 4 years is the person who could help my family the most. Once my family is secure, then I can worry about everything else. Regarding the hypothetical examples you gave regarding social issues: if I found my son or daughter was gay for example then yes, my voting priorities would change. But until then I can't think about what-if's and instead have to vote based on the here-and-now, which usually comes down to the almighty dollar.

So basically, you're free to vote however you want, just as I am. And again, I don't think it's bad that you prioritize social issues, I just don't believe the majority of the population does so, which was the point of my original comment in this thread.

Your family is part of the greater society at large. Vote for the here and now, that's fine, but if there's one thing I thought conservatives understood was investment in the future. Social investment in the future begins in the here and now, and what we do or don't do now WILL affect your children. No what-ifs about that.

I don't label myself as conservative. The only investment in the future I have is where my kids will end up.

Social change is inevitable. It's not a question of if, but when. Like I said in my previous comment, my family needs to be secure first. I'll wait until my kid's four years of college are up, then I'll allow myself to focus on social issues.

kind of ironic, considering the general Republican attitude toward education and funding thereof.

Yup.

Keep in mind that thinking the economy (which is a separate topic from "my disposable income") is the top issue does not inherently mean voting for the Republican. The economy is one of my top concerns, and I'm worried about it because of what the Republican party does to it every single time they gain political power, going back to the 1980s but far worse this century.

The fact that my economic and social concerns both happen to align in disagreement with the typical Republican candidate is just a bonus.

Well no, obviously having the economy as the top concern does not necessarily mean voting Republican, but it's not that much of a stretch to assume that the economy was the deciding factor in a person's vote, regardless of which party they voted for. If a person's livelihood would benefit more from a Democrat in office then I'd say it's pretty likely they'd vote for him, and the same goes for someone who voted Republican.

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