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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-13 03:23 pm

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Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
How is it that you don't qualify for subsidies or Medicaid with an income that low?
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Re: Obamacare

[personal profile] kelincihutan 2013-10-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
The qualifications are really fiddly under the changes Obamacare has made. I might have qualified before, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Which isn't the point, in any case. I shouldn't have to worry about this. I shouldn't need to be afraid for my future just because I'm poor and don't have insurance. And if it weren't for Obamacare, I wouldn't.
Edited 2013-10-14 01:45 (UTC)

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Your story doesn't make sense. In fact it sounds a lot like some of the debunked stories Republicans were trying to pass off as sob stories recently. Of course I can't state there will absolutely be no one falling through the cracks during this act's infancy but poor people without insurance were already worried for their future, this isn't something created by this act.
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Re: Obamacare

[personal profile] kelincihutan 2013-10-14 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I can't make you believe me, so I won't try. But assuming bad faith simply because what someone says doesn't fit into your worldview is pretty uncool.

In any case, I wasn't afraid for my future prior to Obamacare, even without insurance. My one medical condition (I'm very nearsighted), I could handle. I paid for things out-of-pocket, which took planning and saving, but it's doable. And for poor people with bigger medical expenses, there are other ways to help them that don't involve hurting people in situations like mine and the anon's below.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Really? You think claiming you will experience this incredible financial burden due to new "fiddly" requirements without any further clarification doesn't sound suspicious?

If god forbid you'd had an unexpected accident or developed a serious medical condition you could have paid for that out of pocket with planning and saving? It's not doable unless you're very lucky. Please tell me what other ways were there to help all the poor people with big medical expenses. Because I've watched people suffer crippling debt and in one case actually die because they couldn't afford their medical care.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in a similar position to the above person and I find your "I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE SO I KNOW YOUR SITUATION BETTER THAN YOU" thing to be infuriating. If you're not in an untenable position, it probably wouldn't occur to you that misguided help might make it worse.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Never said I knew the OP's situation. I actually said I didn't know the OP's situation because they didn't explain it they only alluded to it supporting their position.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
DA--If I may ask, what state do you live in? One of the ones that didn't take federal money to expand medicare? Because I know that's screwing over a lot of people--in states that did take the money, any single person making under roughly $15,000 per year qualifies for medicare, with adjustments for household size, kids, stuff like that. In states that didn't take the money, a lot of people are fucked, mainly because the people who bashed out the ACA didn't anticipate a bunch of states refusing to expand medicare for political reasons. I really hope you manage to figure something out--I know this isn't a practical solution for most people poor enough to be affected by it, but I'm kinda hoping people who would qualify for assistance if they moved to another state start doing that.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
According to a couple of sources I've seen now, "The Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule in August exempting people from penalties for not having insurance if they would have qualified for Medicaid coverage had their state chosen to expand the program." But I don't know whether the law says anything about people living in states that did expand Medicaid, whose income falls below the qualification line, but who for some other reason still don't qualify (I know in my state, they can get you for weird stuff like owning funeral plots, which are regarded as assets.)