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do you discuss politics with your friends?

[(Anonymous)]

I've realized I'm probably in the minority with my policy of religiously avoiding talking about politics with anyone I like being around, so I'm curious. Do you ever talk politics with your friends? Do you enjoy discussing opposing viewpoints? Do you hide whenever it comes up? Do you just nod and let other people wax poetical about their thoughts while secretly wishing for a flamethrower?

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[caecilia]

friends, yes

family, no.

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[(Anonymous)]

I tend to avoid it, yeah. It's not because I don't enjoy the discussions per se - just that, in my experience, they tend to end with everyone feeling shitty because someone gets to feeling a little too personal in the discussion.

If everyone can stay civil and will back off if someone asks? Then sure. I'd be alright with it - it just doesn't happen that way often enough to be willing to risk it.

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[ariakas]

Friends, yes. Family, no. I can pick and choose my friends, so if one of them starts banging on about the evil baby-killing gay muslims taking over da gubbamint or slides on a fedora and starts quoting Ayn Rand I can drop them like a hot rock. With family it's harder. I've unfollowed about half of my family members on Facebook because they keep posting just completely idiotic, demonstrably false bullshit that supports their political beliefs and I wouldn't be able to look them in eye at Christmas if I kept reading that drivel.

My friends are also my age and roughly my education level, so if I call them a moron for saying something moronic it's no big - I might get the same in return if I say something moronic next week. But my family is by and large uneducated yet the older members expect their views to be treated with respect because they believe they have "authority" over younger family members by virtue of simply being older. So when my anti-vaccine uncle starts his spiel about Big Pharma and mercury and YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT and I give him a verbal smackdown he's sorely affronted (and will try to lash out at me and cause drama for weeks).

So yeah. I basically don't talk about anything political with family members, ever, aside from the few (who aren't morons) whom I would call friends, and with whom I can have a reasoned debate when we disagree without someone screaming, telling the other person they should die, or using the Bible as an authoritative source for scientific knowledge.

(Instead, I save my discussion for their children, all of whom I am successfully converting into rational people behind their parents' backs. Ahahahahahahah. Your little darling doesn't think same sex marriage is morally equivalent to bestiality, Aunt Redneck Go-Fuck-Yourself. Now what are you going to do?)

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[(Anonymous)]

Only the ones who agree with me. :) There's no point otherwise--all it will do is make people mad.

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[pantswarrior]

I celebrate/complain a whole lot about various issues with those who are proud liberals like myself, and I do know a few people who are perfectly reasonable conservatives that I can have interesting, productive discussions with where everyone is respectful and we generally come to the agreement that we both are really looking for the same thing (justice, fairness, peace), we just have different ideas about how to bring it about, and we recognize that nothing is an instant fix anyway, so history will decide.

But there are some people who just snap at you the second you share a dissenting opinion and shout down even proven facts (and this includes some on the left wing side who either don't seem to think that Obama's administration can do anything wrong, or think that he's not liberal enough and seemingly believe he should just ram all kinds of unlikely legislature through by force), and I avoid mentioning anything about politics, religion, or the military around them.

Family tends to be the worst though. One of my aunts is definitely the worst offender. (Once I was notified that she'd left a comment on a political FB post, and she said that she has family in [my part of state] and all of us are over-educated stuffy government payroll white-collar employees who don't understand the working class. Despite the fact that I have not taken a college course since BEFORE I got my GED after dropping out of high school, and worked 3rd shift at a gas station for YEARS up until a couple years ago, and my brother worked his way through college via Wendy's and 7-11 - and we work at the same place, which is not in fact government payroll. Of course to my face she tells me I had set such a good example by how I handled my years in retail!) I just do not comment on her political posts, and if she comments on mine, I flat-out ignore her walls of text and links to ultra-conservative websites full of four-letter words. :P

Re: do you discuss politics with your friends?

[(Anonymous)]

Depends. Some family and friends are fine discussing politics no matter what their personal views are, some cannot handle even the tiniest bit of politics and fly into crazy rages defending their views at even the slightest mention.

I do enjoy discussing opposing viewpoints if the other people discussing are rational, sane, calm, and intelligent in the discussion.

So yeah, depends. Completely on the people I'm with or my mood at the time, but I do discuss politics with family and friends occasionally.