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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-16 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2479 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

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Re: Only conservative white guys have families?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, but conservatives have pretty much hijacked family values as "their" issue, and liberals have to a great extent allowed them to get away with it.
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Re: Only conservative white guys have families?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-17 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Not... really?

Am I the only one noticing this whole gay-families-are-families-too narrative going on in lefty circles? Is that not family values?

Re: Only conservative white guys have families?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. "Family values" for the more conservative tend to be Man-Woman-Kid(s).

Liberals care about "family values", too. But they also want to extend the definition of "family" to more than just the traditional Mother-Father-Kid(s) setup.

Re: Only conservative white guys have families?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course they do, but that's not the version of family that the show idealizes, Bobby's famous "Family don't end with blood" line notwithstanding. I've lost count of how many characters have had their lives utterly ruined and never recovered because their heteronormative 'nuclear' family (or marriage) was somehow broken up. To date, I don't think anyone's turned to hunting or otherwise fallen into the Winchesters' sphere of influence because their same-sex partner was killed by vampires.

The cobbled-together extended 'family' that has included the Winchesters, the Harvelles, Bobby, Kevin, Castiel, Rufus, Charlie and Garth is shown to be a positive thing, but from day one there has been the implicit understanding that it will always be a substitute for the "apple pie life" that hunters dream of but can never have, exemplified by John and Mary's tragic love story. Heck, even their names, John and Mary, couldn't be any more stereotypical of the nuclear-family archetype.

And various characters are periodically offered a chance at a "normal" life with a nice woman and a kid/a dog/a kitchen full of pie/a career as a healer, just so it can all be taken away and remind us yet again that this is the good life and it will forever remain beyond the reach of our heroes.