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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-16 06:44 pm

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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I really didn't thought this would start a war.

Now I'm anxious as fuck, and I'd love it if someone acknoledged the corrections/anotations on both issues (my mistaken usage of "redneck", and some interesting historical considerations in cultural diferences and usage of "America".) I just couldn't answer separately to everyone in the thread.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I used USian once here a few months ago and got a really weird and wanky response too. I wouldn't sweat it too much; this is the community that's had wank over huskies and sled dog movies after all.
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but I usually stay the fuck away from any wank, and this is one that involves me in a personal level :( I'm just don't made for wanks. And I swear I don't want to force my culture on anyone - I just want other people to acknowledge we exist too, and there are more than one point of view of what constitutes the concept of "America".

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

No, I get that; wank isn't fun when you're on the receiving end. As someone who is from the US, I don't feel at all like you're forcing your culture on anyone or anything like that and I think you've made some really good points. It's just that some USians don't take other concepts of American all that well.
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad it's not all flames, and that there are people like you, Anon.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
No one's saying you don't exist. That's just silly. I don't think anyone's saying there's not more than one point of view, either. However, I do think people's identity is important to them, even people who aren't you.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
don't sweat it
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you :3

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously.
You'd think a space that is usually pretty savvy (if not wank-free) about using sociological neologisms and precise terms to help pin down a certain idea ("words have meaning!") would be able to fucking grasp the concept of 'America=the USA' being erasing and imperialistic to millions of people who also have a valid claim to the word and how it is handy to have a separate word to refer to people from the USA specifically.
That does not mean people are going to censor your bumper stickers and your national anthems and impose a New World order lingua franca on your culture, ffs.
The knee-jerk reaction surprises me too. I live in France, and "éta[t]sunien" is occasionally used here - it sounds pretty awkward and is not the most used term but people are aware of the distinction and the problems implicit with colloquially using 'America' solely for the USA.
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm aware that there's no such thing as a "safe-space" (or wank-free) on the internet. But people here are usually very progressive and I thought it was harmless. It's not the first time I use "USian", either. Maybe nobody had noticed before?

So I tend to forget how people from the US get drilled constantly since early age that they're basically their country is the best thing that has happened to History from the Modern Age onwards. They might be the most liberal of the liberal... and still be pretty damn overprotective of certain words.

That does not mean people are going to censor your bumper stickers and your national anthems and impose a New World order lingua franca on your culture, ffs. <- Basically, this :3b