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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-16 06:44 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's because names are incredibly important to people. Somewhat similar to the huge debates over what is the correct term for black people living in America, what to call transpersons, what to call people with certain disabilities, etc. -- even within those communities, there are still debates.

I don't care if someone from another country wants to call me a "USian" although it makes me think of "Martian." But to insist *I* use the term is like insisting that I change my first name to suit you. I'm sorry; I'm quite progressive and painfully aware of the USA's mistakes, but I'm not gonna budge. Think of something else that doesn't sound so ugly, and then we'll talk.
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-10-17 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
*Points upwards* I'm not trying to convert anyone, Anon. I'm not trying to force a neologism that still needs some work and debate down on you for you to use.

But it needs to be acknowledged: Those Other People in the continent feel a sense of kinship (granted, it disappears with soccer matches) towards each other and feel erasured when "American" is meant to say "People from the USA" and not "People from the American Continent/The Americas".

It's just a statement: We're here too, and our point of view is as valid as yours.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I guess part of the trouble is I don't think most North Americans (or at least not Canadians and Americans, no idea about Mexico) feel any real sense of kinship towards even the other North American countries, let alone the South and Central American countries.

Canada and the US are both pretty fiercely independent, and aren't all that keen on being bundled together (though I think it's sort of like, the US goes 'Canada who?' or 'Canada LOL' and Canada's like 'WE'RE NOT AMERICANS. NOT. AMERICANS'), which seems very different from the mindset you're presenting where while you're countries may be separate and different, you're still all one continent.

My experience is that Canadians mostly just feel kinship with Canadians. So when you try to refer to everyone in both Americas as 'American', it's not only referring to Canadians by a name they generally separate themselves from, but it implies a kinship among all the Americas that they don't really feel. It's kind of awkward, like if an acquaintance suddenly came up to you with a bunch of friends and started calling you one of their best beds.