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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-18 06:54 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.cracked.com/article_20562_6-spectacularly-failed-attempts-to-be-politically-correct_p2.html

I was reading this and it mentions how associating chicken and watermelon with black people is racist. Can someone explain why? (I'm not American)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It says it in the article..."In case you're not up on your racial stereotypes, the idea that black people can't get enough fried chicken goes back to Birth of a Nation, and it's largely considered offensive because, you know, Birth of a Nation."

But to be honest, most black people I know do like fried chicken and watermelon. But so do I and I am white. I think friend chicken and watermelon is more of a Southern thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I was gonna say, most PEOPLE I know like fried chicken and watermelon. Trying to navigate and balance stereotypes with real life can be tough sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it just means you should not be like, "Obviously you like fried chicken because you are black!" But yeah, if you invite me to a party and don't make fried chicken solely because you don't want to offend someone, you are a cruel person.

I LOVE FRIED CHICKEN SO MUCHHHH!
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-10-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a chicken junkie. Now I really want fried chicken. Christ.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-10-18 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. :C Some boneless fried chicken strips. WHY DON'T I HAVE ANY CHICKEN???? Maybe we can do that for Sunday dinner. Mmm.
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[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-10-18 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's Southern/generic universal picnic food.

But goddammit, now I want watermelon in October, and it's all your fault, FS!

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
da

That doesn't help. Wtf is Birth of a Nation? The whole black people and kfc/watermelon has always baffled me. How come this is your stereotype america?
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[personal profile] riddian 2013-10-19 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
"Birth Of A Nation" is an extremely racist old film that depicts the Klu Klux Klan as heroes and shit. If you don't know who the KKK are... just take my word that they are the exact opposite of heroes.

It had some really groundbreaking and influential filmmaking techniques, too, which unfortunately probably helped perpetuate the stereotypes shown.
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[personal profile] kelincihutan 2013-10-19 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Fried chicken is a pretty Southern thing. And it is tasty. I had some for lunch, along with sweet iced tea.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, Birth of a Nation, while a huge film, was also very pro-confederacy [for those that don't know the confederacy = pro-slavery side of the Civil War]. Which is *why* a stereotype from it is pretty offensive.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-10-18 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Wikipedia is your friend, yo:

"When it was introduced to the American South, fried chicken became a common staple. Later, as the slave trade led to Africans being brought to work on southern plantations, the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor. Since most slaves were unable to raise expensive meats, but generally allowed to keep chickens, frying chicken on special occasions continued in the African American communities of the South. It endured the fall of slavery and gradually passed into common use as a general Southern dish. Since fried chicken traveled well in hot weather before refrigeration was commonplace, it gained further favor in the periods of American history when segregation closed off most restaurants to the black population. Fried chicken continues to be among this region's top choices for "Sunday dinner" among both blacks and whites. Holidays such as Independence Day and other gatherings often feature this dish.

Since the American Civil War, traditional slave foods like fried chicken, watermelon, and chitterlings have suffered a strong association with African American stereotypes and blackface minstrelsy. This was commercialized for the first half of the 20th century by restaurants like Sambo's and Coon Chicken Inn, which selected exaggerated depictions of blacks as mascots, implying quality by their association with the stereotype. Although also being acknowledged positively as "soul food" today, the affinity that African American culture has for fried chicken has been considered a delicate, often pejorative issue. While the perception of fried chicken as an ethnic dish has been fading for several decades, with the ubiquity of fried chicken dishes in the US, it persists as a racial stereotype."

(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
0.0 COON CHICKEN INN. Jesus H.
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[personal profile] hands4healing 2013-10-19 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
We ate at Sambo's when I was a kid. I can't remember where, though; whether it was in Kentucky or Florida, since we spent a lot of time in either place.

I still have a piece of Sambo's restaurant memorabilia - their stuffed tiger mascot. I know my Mom bought it for me within the past ten years, though I don't think the restaurant's been in business since the 70's.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, Disney creatives at one point sat around a table and somebody said, "Hey, instead of a princess, what if she was a maid -- and instead of a name, what if she was just called something phonetically very similar to an archaic racist term for black women?"

Yes, whatever would it be like if a princess were a maid of all things who ever heard of such a thing maybe even they asked her to sweep up cinders or wash a wishing well or something.

I agree that Maddy isn't a great name for a princess (although clearly short for Madeline), the new princess is going to be named Anna, so clearly Disney doesn't exactly think every princess ought to be named Aurora or Jasmine.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, nonnie. That section of the article is still great because the watermelon and vanilla dipping candies are so over-the-top wrongly hilarious, though.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
They should have at least chosen another name that fit the setting. Nobody in early 20th century New Orleans would be named Tiana. It sounds like someone pulled it from a hat full of modern princessy-sounding names.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2013-10-19 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
Probably the sound association with tiara? Though my google-fu tells me it's short for Christiana, so it's even weirder they'd pick that.

Thinking about it, I'll go with the hat explanation.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes stereotypes can be partially true, though. I know there's this running thing about how white people like sprite/ginger ale for colds, and that is so true for my family. (I'm white, so, yeah)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
? I've never heard that stereotype. *Ginger* helps settle upset stomach, so some people drink ginger ale for that, but maybe somehow that's been warped into colds?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, in my family it was always ginger ale for when you had a stomach bug and couldn't keep anything solid down.

Sometimes popsicles, too.