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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-18 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2481 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[game of thrones]


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[Star Trek, Sleepy Hollow, Elementary]


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[Junjou Romantica]


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(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Right, because the violence in video games that serves to give people adrenaline highs are so realistic and true to what that kind of violence would be like in life. But how do you "de-real" sexual assault? Why would you derive a high from even a simulation of it?

da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
you do realize that rape fantasy is one of the most common sexual fantasies that women have, right?

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Do we have these fantasies while believing that it's normal and romantic?

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
if a lot of romance novels are any indication? yes.

most of which, incidentally, are written by women.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
and women definitely have never done ANYTHING to tear down and endanger other women so your argument is FLAWLESS!!

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
ah, i was wondering when the female sexuality police would show up.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
>But how do you "de-real" sexual assault?
You're seriously asking this while talking about fiction?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Again, this is about the demerit of fiction that normalizes and even romanticizes sexual assault.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about Junjou, I see none.
If you're talking other series, where is the demerit? As it's recognized as a fantasy, no matter whether you see the assault or not, certainly you are not so stupid to think that it might be valid in reality too?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Calling names doesn't help your case. A fantasy that normalizes and romanticizes rape is still offensive, even when we are aware it's not real. Otherwise why criticize anything in fiction at all? Misogyny, racism, homophobia... it's all okay if it's just a story, even if the story refuses to acknowledge these things as bad.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Who was calling names? Mine was a general "you".
I think it all boils down to you (and this time it's you as in you, anon) being far more easily offended than I am, and that's not a good thing in my eyes. Getting off-topic here, but lots of wonderful stories have been called "problematic" because some people saw misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc. etc. in them, and that somehow detracted all the wonderful that was present in those works. The Tintin comics come to mind, I love those comics and I don't care if some people find one page "racist", the good far outweighs the alleged bad.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty clear on the issue. Rape is unforgivable for me, so no matter how wonderful the fictional relationship is beyond that, I cannot praise the story because it stooped so low, even once. Also, if someone is a fan of a work that contains something offensive, I'd like them to acknowledge it as such, without making arguments like, "You shouldn't be offended. The victim said he liked it."

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you demand that people adhere to your vision even when they don't see things the way you do. Well, no. I don't agree with you and I refuse to see things that I don't see just to please a stranger on the internet.