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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-18 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2481 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[game of thrones]


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[Star Trek, Sleepy Hollow, Elementary]


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[Junjou Romantica]


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07. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
>I, on the other hand, find the depiction of forgiveness in itself quite offensive, as if the offender "opening up" and turning out to be a pure, beautiful soul suddenly makes the ugliness of past action go away.

In-series, that's not for you to decide. You're projecting your own beliefs on him now, also I completely disagree with you.

>The character isn't a real person, his "decision" is just a reflection of the author's belief.

Then why does everyone treat him as if he were a real person?

>So because western media also has problems, we should let yaoi off the hook? Why not criticize both, if there are flaws all around?

Dude. When I have said anything about problems? If anything I've pointed out how all your "problematic" stuff turned out to be much less "problematic" than you make it out to be.

>but I will never be on the same page

Don't worry, I'm not going to lose sleep over that.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
The argument is that depiction of the character's action is problematic. When people say, "I think this was rape," they don't mean, "I treat this character like a real person commits sexual assault." They're saying, "This author wrote a story that depicts an incident I believe to be sexual assault."

Well, then we know how it stands. I think the tendency to excuse sexual assault as the character being tsundere is offensive, and very common in yaoi. Just as common as starting out a relationship with rape then developing it romantically. I think you're blindsided by the romance, which may actually be well-written. It is never necessary to include rape, it does nothing to improve on the relationship but actively makes the character repulsive to the readers. You can portray a dark, flawed character who has issues with relationships, without having him rape someone, especially if your goal is to write a romantic story.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
>They're saying, "This author wrote a story that depicts an incident I believe to be sexual assault."

That's an opinion, okay.

>I think the tendency to excuse sexual assault as the character being tsundere is offensive

I disagree, because I see the two as two very distinct things.

>I think you're blindsided by the romance, which may actually be well-written.

I find it very well-written. I also think you're blindsided by your being offended at stuff, but whatever.

>It is never necessary to include rape,

Whoa now, when did I say that? I even pointed out western BL doesn't tend to have that at all, and I enjoy western works too.



(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
So 4chan it hurts

(Anonymous) 2013-10-19 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Not really? It looks like greentext, but they're really only using it as quotation marks.