[ SECRET POST #2481 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[game of thrones]


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[Star Trek, Sleepy Hollow, Elementary]


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[Junjou Romantica]


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06. [SPOILERS for Percy Jackson]



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07. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's irrelevant. The question remains, do you think this was rape? If you argue that it isn't, well we'll just have to disagree because I cannot see how this situation could be clearer.

If you do think it was rape, then you can go on to argue that it's fine for the work to romanticize this relationship founded on rape because it's only fiction. I will disagree and argue that depictions of such action in fiction matter, not least because so many of the readers are young and are now making arguments like, "The relationship was so romantic, what happened wasn't rape," or, "He raped him but it was okay because he liked it and they're in love". I just have to stroll through a forum or a YouTube video to find tons of comments like this. Not once does someone claim to acknowledge that the act was heinous but they enjoyed the work anyway purely as a fantasy. People in real life are actually defending the tropes as being normal, healthy, romantic, etc. That is what I call "having an effect".

[(Anonymous)]

I beg to differ, it's extremely relevant.

I think it's obvious by now that we disagree on many things.

>not least because so many of the readers are young

Ah yeah, "think of the children", called it. Why are young readers reading 18+ series anyway? It contains graphic scenes, it's a series for discerning adults.

>and are now making arguments like, "The relationship was so romantic, what happened wasn't rape," "He raped him but it was okay because he liked it and they're in love"

Actually I've never seen those specific arguments in the fandom, if anything I've seen arguments pretty much like mine. Some better worded and many worded for the worse, but still.

>Not once does someone claim to acknowledge that the act was heinous but they enjoyed the work anyway purely as a fantasy. People in real life are actually defending the tropes as being normal, healthy, romantic, etc. That is what I call "having an effect".

Or maybe they understand it's a different sex trope and they accept it as such, without forgetting that what works in a fantasy doesn't necessarily work in real life, as I do. But it looks like you can't differentiate the two and if I think that Junjou Romantica is a great love story, you automatically assume I think the real world is totally a porn anime so I'm totally going to forget common sense and my own culture and act like an anime porn character irl. Right.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you really that out of touch? The manga is posted on the Internet, for free. It's also hugely popular. A lot of yaoi fans are teenagers, some as young as 12-13. Oh yeah, I'm sure they all look at ratings and follow them to the letter.

Go to Mangafox, likely the most well-known manga site on the net. Take a peek at the forums. There abound those arguments you constantly deny exist.

[(Anonymous)]

And? 12-13 year olds browse 4chan too. That's also free and hugely popular too. But they're still the ones in the wrong for browsing a clearly-marked adult website (and thus deserving of bans), just like they're the ones in the wrong for reading that's marked (by Mangafox itself) "Caution to under-aged viewers: The series Junjou Romantica contain themes or scenes that may not be suitable for very young readers thus is blocked for their protection." The ratings are there for a reason.

I don't post on Mangafox, but looking at the forums right now I see normal fandom discussion threads and various squeeing and gushing over your favourite whatever which I still do myself even though I'm nearly 30. In fact, everything that's been said by the haters ITT has already been discussed to death in the fandom. The series has been going for more than 10 years now, you know, you aren't saying anything haters haven't already said and that fans haven't already refuted.

[(Anonymous)]

Assuring that all due warnings are in place, it's the parents' responsibility that their children do not view age-inappropriate material.