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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-18 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2481 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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elialshadowpine: ([wow] blood elf woman looking up)

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-10-19 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
I had a guildie once who would brag about how she would play up the girl card to get free stuff. I screenshotted that and sent it to the GLs, who booted her. (I should note that we had already been having a lot of issues with her, because she was always begging for people to run her through low level raids and instances to "gear up".)

That guild was 3/4 women, and the GLs (a lesbian couple) had no tolerance for that BS. Our raids were frequently 8-9/10 women, and one of our Lich King kills, we had 10/10 women, which was fucking awesome.

But that is like... the only time I have seen someone outright admit to going out of their way to play up the "girl card" (I've known a couple who would accept things if they were offered, but they weren't trying so much as "if some total stranger is going to offer me gold or loot because "AMG GURLZ", fuck'm, I'm taking it).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-19 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Blech. I kind of want to take people like that by the scruff of the neck and shake them. In a way I feel they are throwing other female gamers under the bus. :|

I follow a group of female YGO players on YouTube, and I think it's really cool that they were all friends and all duel together, but it bothers me when they say things like how fun it was to pretend to be vapid and dumb to trick male players into not taking them seriously, and use that to their advantage to win duels. I think that's a very similar situation. Not only are they feeding into wrongheaded stereotypes about women who play games, but they're also actively using their gender as a tool to win. It makes it harder for those of us who happen to be female but just want to play the game like everyone else to be taken seriously. And it's a very male-dominated game and greater community.

I don't think that's an entirely fair assessment since, again, the onus is on the rest of the players to treat every other player like an equal. But I'm not going to deny that it causes harm, especially when many players are teens and relatively impressionable.
Edited (what is verb tense) 2013-10-19 18:01 (UTC)
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-10-20 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
I have mixed feelings myself. I have found they are few and far between enough that most of the guilds I have been in don't have that expectation. But, I've never been very long in a guild that wasn't at least half women (once, after a guild dissolution in which our GLs had sorted out agreements with two guilds to take on members; I ended up leaving and going to the second one because guild chat was done entirely in Vent, which is... flat-out not workable for me, with auditory issues and migraines. I frequently would raid lead w/o being on Vent at all) so I'm not sure I've been in the type of guilds where you might see that more. The "guild princess" type seems to go for male dominated guilds, not ones where there are a lot of women.

I think, in the past, they caused a lot more issue, but there seem to be more openly identified women gamers in most games now that I have seen, so I'm hoping that helps with the stereotyping...
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-20 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I hope so too. I'm tired of the wrongheaded idea that women gamers are some kind of rare creature. That definitely feeds into it.