[ SECRET POST #2483 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2483 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[othellia]

It has a decent concept. First season is enjoyable if strangely-paced. Second season starts off pretty strong... and then derails. Horribly. The only reason I made it to the last season finale was the livestream group I was watching it with.

It's like they didn't know where they wanted to go with the story, so the writers kept throwing out new characters and new plot threads like it's no tomorrow. Meanwhile existing characters get shafted (or even completely dropped) and don't even get me started on the mess that is the Evil Queen's development(?) arc.

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[(Anonymous)]

'they didn't know where they wanted to go with the story"--actually, they knew. They wanted to go to Neverland. Owing to the weird copyright issues surrounding Peter Pan, they couldn't actually do that. Then, midseason, they got the rights, resulting in horrible-even-for-OUAT plot and character derailment when they ditched the holding-pattern they'd kept the show in until they knew if they'd get them. Disney and the Great Ormond Street Hospital are, I think, still having ongoing spats about Peter Pan, leading to things like the only authorized Peter Pan sequel, Peter Pan in Scarlet, going head to head with Dave Barrie's Disney-movie based Peter and the Starcatchers and losing horribly. As for the character development sucking, I think they're afraid of the big villains actually getting redemption too early, so they make Regina especially look insane. She keeps doing the same awful shit and expecting different results. And the show started as Disneyfied fairy tales+soap operas. I still love it because I love cheese, but yeah, I don't know how they're going to stretch it out long enough to have syndication rights.

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[(Anonymous)]

fuck missed an italic tag oh well

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[othellia]

Ugh, stuff like this - and having to deal with actor availability shit - is why I never want to develop for television.

(Also, no worries about the italic tag.)

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[thezmage]

If it was about copyright reasons, then why did they have Captain Hook Sparrow so early in the season?

Re: Is this show worth watching or is it too terrible?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not really sure how they managed that. They were definitely planning to bring Hook in even as far back as right after season 1 wrapped-- they showed a sneak-peek of Hook at Comic-Con that summer. But for one thing they've said they wanted Jack Sparrow on the show, but wouldn't do it unless Johnny Depp agreed to a cameo. For another--Hook looks and acts nothing like book or even Disney-movie Hook. He's got a different name and different backstory. I think that's for more than the usual fairy-tale kitchen sink reasons. So long as they didn't show Neverland, or Pan, or Hook in a red velvet coat looking like a clone of Charles II, I think they could get away with references so long as they didn't actually set anything there. Or they may have been testing the waters to see how much they could get away with. Technically, any performance of the play Peter Pan is supposed to kick back royalties to the Great Ormond St. Hospital as long as the UK exists. I'm not sure how references or re-imaginings are dealt with, just that Disney and the Hospital's lawyers have spats about it occasionally, because, surprise surprise, Disney didn't get permission or give any money when they made the animated version, and they argue that all the merchandise and spin-offs that spring from that are Disney property. But as far as characterization goes, OUAT's version of Pan is the closest I've ever seen to the book outside the book itself.