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the lgbt movements i am a part of aim for equal rights/treatment/acceptance in society for people like me. that has yet to happen and clearly will not happen for a long time. i am living in these movements, they are a daily part of my life, a daily part of my struggle to not be seen as garbage for who i am. within these movements i do find community, and you've no right to tell me otherwise; you are not me nor like me in any way. the means does matter. the means shape the outcome. we may someday reach the same ends but the history behind it paints our future very distinctly, and to people who will have to live with that aura, it matters. don't try to talk to me about things you know little about. this is not a philosophy debate.

Haven't said anything of value or substance there.

And a lot of boderline crazy shit.

So I'l restate my original point. Leave the allies alone. It's not their fault you don't have anything else to define you as a person.

wow, maximum ~le trolling here. 9gag would be proud of you.

What.

I'm not even vaguely close to coming at you from that perspective.

Like, that's just such a bizarre leap?

no it's not, don't play stupid. you shot down my commentary and brushed it off as meaningless to you without explaining why, referred to me as mentally ill for my views, and proceeded to jump to the logically fallacious assumption that i have no identity beyond my lgbt relations. if you aren't intentionally trolling then you're about as ignorant as they come, which is unsurprising, coming from a nationalistic airhead such as yourself.

i am going to guess from your comments that you are not lgbtqa. even if you are, you have no right to invalidate my thoughts and feelings. it would only make it worse if you were a straight cis male, as i suspect, trying to drown out an lgbt voice about lgbt issues and the safety of queer spaces. don't even talk to me, you are very obviously trolling and/or self-absorbed and ignorant, and i'm not here for that. bye

I have every right to invalidate your thoughts and feelings if you're going to attempt to use those as a weapon to stifle real debate, communication, and campaigning, and attack people who I imagine are making more intellectual sound arguments because they're straight.

And setting aside the fact that 'safe spaces' (as opposed to pro LGBT areas) are invariably toxic and stunting, the general gay rights movement sure as hell isn't your safe space.

so you're straight and therefore have neither the experiences nor the rights-at-stake to have any perspective aside from a straight one, and yet you still think you know more about lgbt issues than lgbt people. ok. this is that shit people don't like, the kind of thing that turns us away from ~straight allies who think they know more than we do. let me make this clear: if you are drowning out lgbt voices then you are not helping us or benefitting us, you are acting as a method of oppression and only reinforcing the idea that we are not independent or deserving of individual rights. what else is there to fucking debate? what the hell is even your point? you don't have one, you are only acting to incite aggravation. you don't care about me, or people like me. you know nothing of lgbt spaces. the bottom line here is, you just don't like feeling unimportant. you've made that hella obvious.

so keep your shitty alliance, dude. you're the last person i want being "my voice." i'm 100% done talking to you.

No.

But I think the fact you assumed I am nicely highlights everything I've been saying.

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