[ SECRET POST #2485 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2485 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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03.
[Twilight]


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04.
[Lana Del Rey / Marina and the Diamonds]


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05.
[Long Way Round, Long Way Down]


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06.
[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]


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07.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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08.
[Pacific Rim]


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09.
[Game of Thrones]


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10.
[Captain Marvel]


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #355.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[chardmonster]

I just find it's a less clunky way to go about it than to just spell out "HE HAD AN ACCENT, THE ACCENT WAS THIS." Sometimes syntax isn't different enough.

Also I will now forever picture you as talking with a great deal of phlegm. You painted a vivid picture in my mind, Ariakas!

[ariakas]

There is absolutely no need to say "he had an accent, the accent was this"
if the author uses the right syntax, though. E.g. the aforementioned "maths" or "in hospital". We know that character isn't American. Immediately.

And syntax sure as shit is different enough if it's "standard" English versus American accents we're talking about. More importantly, Canadians (who have any contact with the word outside of American media), with a accent virtually identical to what many consider American Standard also pronounce "lieutenant" the British way, so writing out a phonetic "leftenant" actually doesn't give an indication of what the character sounds like, without syntax. And if you use correct syntax, there's no need for misspellings.

[chardmonster]

So let me get this straight. You are arguing that there is only one proper way to write dialog. That there are rules that must be followed.

What do you do with an audience that isn't going to pick up syntax differences?

[ariakas]

You literally said that misspelling words was "part of getting the dialect right". I disagreed.

As mentioned - several times now, to which you have yet to respond - "maths" is not going to not be "picked up" by anyone who has ever heard the dialects in question. And if someone hasn't heard said dialect(s), all the apostrophes and gibberish in the world aren't going to help them.

Let's review:

"Misspell words to get the dialect right!" *no explanation*

"No, syntax is better!" *explanation*

"ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S ONE WAY TO WRITE DIALOG?!!? YOU DON'T CONTROL ME!!! MY DEFINITIVE STATEMENTS ABOUT DIALOG ARE SUGGESTIONS AND YOURS ARE PRESCRIPTIONS!!! ONLY A SITH DEALS IN ABSOLUTES!!!"

If you got nothing, man, you got nothing. We're having a debate about stylistic preferences and their reasoning and all you can pull is "YOU DON'T OWN ME!!!"? Just accept it and bow out.

[chardmonster]

I must have lost track of the argument in the midst of your grandiose posturing. I never meant to imply that there is only one "right" way to do dialog; I was imprecise. I'm sorry you thought that.

If you got nothing, man, you got nothing. We're having a debate about stylistic preferences and their reasoning and all you can pull is "YOU DON'T OWN ME!!!"? Just accept it and bow out.

God forbid we have a halfway friendly conversation without someone declaring victory

[ariakas]

"*kicks over table*" is what qualifies as "grandiose posturing" these days? Man, am I ever out of touch.

"I forgot what I said and started posting *facepalm* gifs in response to your earnest attempts to explain your position - you're the reason we can only have arguments and not friendly discussions around here!"

...Seriously, though. Seriously.

[chardmonster]

I'm kind of worried you think a star trek gif is how I express actual anger.

Anyway I was talking about your words, not the emotes.

[ariakas]

I did forget that my definitive statements about dialogue were totalitarian prescriptions about literature and yours were merely stated preferences, as I said. If someone can describe the reasons behind their point of view to another person, it does becomes a fact.