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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-23 06:41 pm

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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-23 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this code for "not city schools?"

I'm not trying to make you look like a bad guy or anything; I hear the education majors saying this stuff all the time. They only want to teach the kids who don't need much help. I guess I get it but it's kind of depressing.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-10-23 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My mother's told me stories about the kids she taught in city schools. It makes me wonder who on Earth would have the guts to keep doing that for more than a few years. (She swears she got one once who'd been rescued from a kiddie porn film shoot. He'd tell all the girls that he wanted to rape them.)
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-23 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhh

Yeah my sister works in a city school as a teacher. Me and my siblings attended them. THAT IS NOT EVERY CITY SCHOOL.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-10-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
For real. I went to a private school and my sister chose to go to the local public school (in a city). They're really not THAT different. It sounds like people are a lot more public about smoking weed at the public school and people have more economic difficulty there, but it's not like my sister has to go to school and be afraid she'll be hurt. The school's not perfect, but my private school wasn't perfect either.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-24 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
This. My sister has to deal with a lot of kids who get pregnant. But it is not A Living Hell.

Kids are kids, no matter who their parents are.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I actually switched from private to public because I was bullied very heavily there.

I agree that they're not that different, but I do think I was better off in a public school and was far less sheltered.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-24 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I had the same experience but I didn't go to a very urban school. (I didn't choose to switch, my parents switched me between 1st and 2nd grade, and it was seriously one of the best things they ever did for me)

re: urban schools: I've no doubt that some are terrible and some are pretty good. There's a ton of them; there's got to be variety.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-10-24 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I mentioned that one kid as an extreme case. I certainly don't think all students at city schools are THAT messed up, though my mother does make it sound like a hard environment to work in.

(As for where I went to school, I wound up in an "alternative" school. As I told my mother, it was the place where they sent you when there was no alternative. Again, I didn't have any classmates who were THAT messed up, but I did have a lot of classmates who, for one reason or another, were unable to function in private school.)
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(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Motivated kids is code for motivated kids, which is why I'm not in teaching. I would be a terrible teacher for children. Any kind of teaching involving kids also involves motivating and disciplining them -- or teaching them how to be functioning members of society, if you want to look at it that way -- and I didn't understand what went on in most kids' heads when I was a kid, much less now.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-10-23 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda feel the same as you and I'm in the field right now. It's sad but slightly understandable? For me though, it's not about gifted/not-gifted. It's about motivation.

I've worked with special ed, normal kids, and gifted. All are a joy to work with if they want to learn. If they don't want to learn it just usually ends with frustration on my part and little to nothing learned on theirs.

So yeah, understandable but sad because the kids who need you the most sometimes are those who have the least motivation.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-24 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks--and This is true! I'm really happy my sister wanted to go this route (she's working as a special ed science teacher in the city high school we attended!), but part of that is because... well, that's where we went. So we know what it's like. Meanwhile when I went to catechism class in tenth grade the kids from the catholic high school acted like kids from the city schools were characters from Dangerous Minds--despite our usually being from the same neighborhood and background.

A lot of the best students I've had in freshman history were from disadvantaged backgrounds. And I ended up having to give them reduced grades on papers, because--despite their having much more interest in the material and incisive thinking than most of the advantaged kids--nobody ever taught them to write. It's a writing intensive course and I have to grade stuff like grammar and structure. People care a lot about giving these kids scholarships once they hit senior, but it appears nobody bothered to teach them a lot before that. It's depressing.
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