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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-23 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2486 ]


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Re: To see if I'm understanding what cultural appropriation actually is . . .

[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-10-24 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I get the relevance of that. Privileges should be given as DIRECT compensation (for instance, people in wheelchairs get help getting on the bus because they need help getting on the bus.) Allowing people who haven't oppressed other people to appropriate, while not allowing people who have oppressed other people to appropriate, is a direct compensation only if you assume that those allowed to appropriate somehow need to do so (for instance, to patch up holes left by the systematic annihilation of their original culture.) I don't think that applies in this case, so I don't see why you'd allow the Japanese to appropriate if you didn't allow Europeans to appropriate.

Re: To see if I'm understanding what cultural appropriation actually is . . .

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
What? I don't know what country you're from, but I'm from the West and have spent a lot of time travelling in non-Western countries, including Japan. Appropriation of Western culture is rife and I fail utterly to see that this is in any way a harmful thing in and of itself. Whereas Western appropriation in the form of Orientalism and the like can actually be pretty harmful. Japanese people are generally pretty well placed today in the West, but it's not so happy for indigenous peoples or others experiencing racism and disenfranchisement in the West who have had parts of their culture used in disrespectful or racist or income-diverting ways.

...are you arguing that it's not harmful? I'm not really interested in reiterating the cliff notes about that.
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Re: To see if I'm understanding what cultural appropriation actually is . . .

[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-10-24 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see any outright harm in, say, an American video game that pillages Japanese mythology while getting all the details wrong. I think it's STUPID, but I don't see the harm. (Then again, it sounds like what you're talking about as "appropriation" might be things like portraying an existing religion as evil demon worship, which is a hell of a lot worse than just plain getting things wrong. Then again again, I've never complained about those Japanese video games where you kill the Christian god, even though Christians are oppressed in Japan.)

Re: To see if I'm understanding what cultural appropriation actually is . . .

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't realise there were Christians who were oppressed in Japan D: Mea culpa.