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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-24 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2487 ⌋

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[Vincent D'Onofrio in "Adventures in Babysitting"]


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[Legend of Korra]


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[The Little Mermaid]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Moby Dick]


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[American Horror Story]


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[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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[Supernatural]


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[Yogscast]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


















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(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always impressed on how much quickly you guys react to asexuality wank.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is demisexuality wank, actually, which is an extra layer of juicy. Asexuals get a lot of "you're not really asexual because XYZ" whereas demisexuals get "you're not really demisexual, because demisexual isn't even a thing."

It's actually pretty funny.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

See, I fully believe asexuality is a thing (I'm not sure I 100% believe everyone who says they are ARE, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt me or take any time out of my day to accept that they believe they are either), however, to me demisexuality/greysexuality is less of a sexuality and more of a... I don't really want to use the word preference, because people could bring that back by saying gay/straight/bi is a preference.

I just don't see how needing to feel emotionally connected to someone before having sex with them is 'special'. In my experience, most people (even if they might say, "Oh man, so and so is sexy/hot/attractive", it doesn't mean that they'd fuck them right then and there, because most people want or need affection/love before having sex with someone, and to me the idea that needing a label for that seems to imply that people who just enjoy sex for sex without that emotional attachment are doing it wrong.

That's why a lot of people have issues with demi/greysexuality, not because they have issues with people needing to connect before sex, but because it seems like indirect slut-shaming.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
My problem with demisexual is that it can be applied in addition to other sexualities. You can be both bisexual and demisexual, for example. All other sexualities are mutually exclusive (how do you manage to be both bisexual and heterosexual?), so the term just doesn't match the set characteristics for the rest of what we consider sexualities.

Basically, people can define whatever they want so long as they follow the rules of what established words actually mean.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Thank you, that explains one of my issues with the word that I couldn't fully form the words to explain it with!
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-25 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't see how needing to feel emotionally connected to someone before having sex with them is 'special'. In my experience, most people (even if they might say, "Oh man, so and so is sexy/hot/attractive", it doesn't mean that they'd fuck them right then and there, because most people want or need affection/love before having sex with someone, and to me the idea that needing a label for that seems to imply that people who just enjoy sex for sex without that emotional attachment are doing it wrong.

The thing I was trying to explain upthread, and I don't think I was doing a very good job of it, was that these sexualities refer to needing a connection before experiencing sexual attraction to someone. Not before having sex with them, or enjoying sex, or anything else people are saying.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
But finding someone attractive doesn't necessarily mean sexual attraction to me, and a lot of people will find something about someone attractive (whether it's personality or looks or whatever) before deciding to get to know them, and then that's where the sexual attraction will kick in.

I feel like if you polled people (and they answered honestly) about whether they went on a date with someone before or after being sexually attracted to them, the majority of people would tell you that they decided to date them BEFORE that sexual attraction.

And as someone said above, you could be bisexual or homosexual and demisexual at the same time, which is part of why I don't like the term, because it seems less about WHO you're attracted to and more about what (or who) you're doing with that attraction.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-25 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I think honestly the best thing to do would be to poll a lot of people (using clear definitions, of course). Because everyone seems to be defining things a little differently and that is where the misunderstandings come from.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
*nod* LABELS ARE THE DEVIL. I think we just need to go with, "Hi, I'm Bob and I am attracted to X and Y and like to do Z and Q." Problem solved. >.>

I know labels make things convenient in some manners and shorten such introductions (it's faster to say you're gay or straight or bi than it is to break it down to really specific situations etc), but sometimes labels do cause more problems than they solve.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-25 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
But finding someone attractive doesn't necessarily mean sexual attraction to me

There are different kinds of attraction. Sexual attraction is just one and it's the one that's being discusses here (I think? lol)

mostly being pedantic tho because I generally agree with your comment
Edited 2013-10-25 02:06 (UTC)