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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-24 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2487 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Vincent D'Onofrio in "Adventures in Babysitting"]


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03.
[Legend of Korra]


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04.
[The Little Mermaid]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Moby Dick]


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[American Horror Story]


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[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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[Supernatural]


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10.
[Yogscast]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


















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Re: Privilege

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't argue with that, but I disagree with the notion that women don't have advantages. They do. And words can be used to twist anything - say the (real) cases of two elementary school teachers having sex with students. one is a man, one is a woman. We know the story, the woman gets house arrest for a couple months or something and little backlash, the man is a pedophile and goes to jail. We could say "the woman was perceived as weaker and a non-threat", okay. But the man was perceived as a predator and a huge threat. Granted, in that case, I think it's true (for both the man and the woman) but the fact that we see men as predators is sexism, too.

Okay, that didn't really sound right because that's an accurate description, but my point is, we could say automatically assuming men are bigger threats is a strike against men just as easily as we could say the opposite for women.

Yes, I think most problems will be eliminated by recognizing institutionalized sexism against women. But I don't think we should ignore the problems that men face (I know that sounds awful and I'm not MRA, but you know what, there are things that do exist). For example, men can't be raped, men are less likely to win custody of children, and so on.

We need to focus feminism on gender inequality as it affects both genders, imo. we can't get equality by focusing on only one gender.

Re: Privilege

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
What it essentially comes down to, I think, is that patriarchy hurts men too -- in a lot of ways, honestly. Men are supposed to be "strong," so a man or boy who expresses emotional vulnerability is mocked. Child care is seen as a woman's job, so a man taking his daughter to the park alone will be viewed with suspicion of being a pedophile. The list goes on. These are side effects of social norms that primarily harm women, but they also hurt men. That's a good reason why it's in everyone's interest to dismantle the sexist ideas and social institutions that perpetuate them.

I'm not suggesting we should ignore the problems that men face as a result of patriarchy; I'm suggesting that the best way to improve things for everyone, men and women, is to recognize and work to eliminate the effects of patriarchy.