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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-30 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2493 ]


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[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-10-31 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to clarify -- I never meant to suggest I considered Marvin the Martian a religious figure, on the other hand, what I meant was that they contrasted him with the Russian and Chinese religious figures.

Otherwise thanks for a stimulating comment which makes me consider the movie in a different light.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-31 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I see. Well, I doubt Cuaron meant to imply that the godless, irreligious Americans brought this disaster on themselves by being so damn godless and irreligious. Maybe he meant to say that American pop culture is so deeply ingrained that its icons are now as ubiquitous as Chinese deities are to the Chinese. Which is probably true, if not a particularly spiritual statement.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-31 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Religion performs the function of ordering the world and making it fit for human habitation. It tames the orderless, it takes the terrifying majesty and vastness of nature and turns it into something comprehensible, it provides an answer to the questions and the terror which arise in us in response to our recognition of the fundamental conditions of our mortal existence and the limits of our perceptions and our lives. In other words the religion is something which performs a human function, and in the modern irreligious society this role is filled by something other than the divine - by pop culture, by aliens, by spirits, by cartoons of Martians.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-31 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Actually, while I do agree with you that Cuaron might have meant to make a spiritual statement in the film, I don't think Marvin the Martian is part of that. It's in fact science that takes the place of men's desire for something bigger. It fits everything you described. The danger of the catastrophe is a scientific trial by fire, because the scientific quest like the spiritual quest for truth is also fraught with danger.