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⌈ Secret Post #2494 ⌋

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[Noel Fielding, formerly of The Mighty Boosh]

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[American Horror Story: Coven]

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[Once Upon A Time]

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[The Caves of Steel]

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[Steam Powered Giraffe]

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1. Tinhatting.
2. Wank about ships becoming "canon" or "endgame."
3. Campy fanservice pandering by screenwriters, usually paired with "no homo" moments. (Postmodern Holmes.)
4. Inflating the ship as a social justice issue. Destiel may be important to people who ship it, it's not important to me as a queer man who has a backlog of better treatments in SF&F to read and watch. Neither am I a bad queer for thinking that your slash isn't supported by the source.
5. Ship drama dominating discussion for shows where the ship is a minor subplot.
6. Bad experiences with straights who loved m/m erotica but were not willing to deal with the realities of m/m relationships.
7. And a fair bit of exploitation and stereotype-driven garbage. There's sometimes a double standard pulled of "it's not really about you" and "you should thank us for writing about you at all."

None of which are universal, just the few bad apples raising a funk in the barrel. Slashing relationships IMNSHO loses a bit of power when it becomes activism trying to change the work or evangelism for a specific interpretation. I'm a lifelong trekkie, and I love K/S because Kirk is written for television and cinema straighter than a phaser beam in the absence of a gravitational field. Great K/S serves as satire about the heterosexism of television and Hollywood.

For the tl;dr version: Slash is fun when it's a countercultural game that plays with the source narrative. It's less fun when slash fans try to dictate the source narrative or how it's broadly interpreted.

Thank you for responding. I really do appreciate your thoughts on it. Hearing the perspective on slash from a queer man is a bit eye-opening to me. I wish that I could properly voice my thoughts, but I'm not too good at wording things especially when it comes to topics like this. So I'll simply say that I agree with all of your points. And again, thank you for elaborating. I really wish that I could properly word my thoughts on this because I'd love to discuss this topic with you.

No problem, I do get a bit ranty about it.

"And a fair bit of exploitation and stereotype-driven garbage. There's sometimes a double standard pulled of "it's not really about you" and "you should thank us for writing about you at all."

Wow.. that's really shitty of them.

Makes me snort now when I see tumblrites who are all "if you don't ship my slash ship you're a homophobe. I'm SO MUCH MORE OPEN MINDED THAN YOU, YOU HATEFUL PERSON!!1!!1"

There was a big shitstorm a few years ago when one of the awards for queer writing announced that applicants for consideration needed to be queer-identified. That's part of where that came from.

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