[ SECRET POST #2496 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2496 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[gamma_orionis]

You have to start out like that. Once you do it for a little while, people start to take notice. The more you do it, the more notice they take.

It really is that simple. We all started by talking into voids.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

No, some people just don't catch on. Most of fandom is huge and no matter how often you post or how much you tag or link sometimes not everyone gets paid attention to.

[(Anonymous)]

Same experience here. :(

[(Anonymous)]

No, we all did not start by talking into voids. Back when I started in fandom (eight or so years ago), I had lots of comms to choose from. Fic comms, pairing-specific comms, more general show-based comms. When you commented there, everyone could see your comment and respond if they wished.

On Tumblr, all I ever see is endless re-blogging.

[(Anonymous)]

Nonny likes this.

[nyxelestia]

I think Tumblr has created this "talk endlessly into a void and hope something sticks" mentality where previously fandom was about precise targeting in conversation. That's actually why I see myself as mostly a lurker in fandom today - outside of F!S. I have neither the time nor the patience to talk endlessly at an empty void and hope someone hears me.

[(Anonymous)]

OH GOD THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE OF TUMBLR

What the hell, fandom? Where the fuck is the meta?

[(Anonymous)]

Depending on the fandom, you have to search for it. All the meta from the fandoms I'm currently interested in moved from LJ to tumblr - a great shame because now there's minimal discussion of said meta. While I like the picspams on tumblr, I really wish the meta writers would crosspost (and then I wouldn't have to struggle reading tumblr pages set up with a tiny pale font on a slightly paler background..blerg.)

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have days and days to search for meta. I'm into the MCU Thor fandom, and my eyes are crossed from all the searching for meta from the recent movie in amongst all the other stuff, and I've still only found a bit, and my real life responsibilities are lagging. I'm following a few decent people and even following their discussions are a nightmare because sometimes the entirety of their notes don't show up at the bottom even though they have the same origin post so I have to open up lots of tabs, and if I try to participate I usually get crickets and it's non-linear and did I mention I DON'T HAVE THE TIME, when it is a relatively small amount of content I find and I'm looking for.

[nyxelestia]

One of the problems it Tumblr is that you kind of have to be there all the time to do more than effectively lurk. I go on Tumblr for an hour or two every other day or so, and I've seen some friends and fellow fans' minds boggled by this. Hell, recently I saw a post made by someone that they were reblogging something again because they'd "heard that there were people who aren't on Tumblr all the time" followed by lots of question marks.

The entire model is set up to encourage people to never leave, and kind of encourages Internet addiction. The amount of kids on there who post endlessly and then whine about their parents restricting their Internet access is just ridiculous. I think the idea of having something that easily takes up all your time is appealing to some people, but for those of us who just pop our heads into fandom for a few hours a day, rather than being attached via smartphone all day long, Tumblr is a nightmare because it doesn't really have a 'digest' or a way to get a summary of what happened. It's all or nothing if you want to do more than enjoy pretty pictures and gifsets.

[(Anonymous)]

One thing I loved about being in a fandom where there was an active forum: it was something I could easily dip in and out of as time allowed and posts would still be there days or months later. If I wanted to catch up on a thread, I just had to read that thread, not the entire forum.

[nyxelestia]

The analogy I once used to explain the fandom shift is that journal-sites and forums were like a cafe, while Tumblr is a club.

In the cafe, people tend to sit down at a table and they often have long discussions or will even just share "space" of a table while doing their own thing. You won't meet a lot of people necessarily, but the ones you do meet you will usually get to know pretty well.

In a club people usually remain standing, and are mostly dancing or just chatting around the edges - it's great for meeting a lot of people and having some superficial fun, but there's loud music and people are drinking so you don't really get long and deep conversations except in very rare cases and incidences, and most of the time if there is a conversation, people are mishearing or missing completely each other's words, while other people are chiming in while passing by, leading to fractured multiple conversations. Fun for a little while but grating and demoralizing in the long term.

I was using this analogy to explain to a rather die-hard Tumblr user why I disliked the fandom shift towards Tumblr. In the analogy, I was a strong cafe-goer. I liked going to the club every now and then, but I just could not tolerate going there on a regular basis, and preferred the cafe. And I didn't have too much of a problem with other people going to the club, but I was sad because a lot of them were not coming back to the cafe, so I had less people to chill with, and afraid that if enough people stopped coming, the metaphorical cafe would be forced to shut down. I went to the club out of necessity, but I would go with ear plugs and only after taking headache medication and often tried to continue chatting like I was in a cafe, which didn't work so well because people in the club were used to wandering off, suddenly branching off with another person, or were drunk during the conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

oh god this x1000000000

[(Anonymous)]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Tumblr is like watching TV with the sound turned off. I can appreciate the pretty pictures, et cetera, but the fact that it's not set up for conversation/discussion is so frustrating to me. Just my two cents.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I was feeling like I was staring that right in the face last night and this morning when the heart of my RP group (a player who RPs multiple characters) was upset and on the verge of shutting down.

Right at the moment I feel the only contact I have with people is either RP or IM with a friend I made due to fanfic (she wrote the fic, I regularly commented).

[blueonblue]

Yeah, posting on a LJ comm was not like posting into the tumblr void.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. Creating my own blog and trying to gather up lots of followers is an awful lot of work just to get a little back-and-forth discussion now and then. Forums and comms don't function that way. They are communities built for groups people with common interests rather than the tumblr/twitter format of following individual people in hopes they say something interesting about that one show you like.

[(Anonymous)]

If there's one show you like, why not just track the tag for it? That's what I do. I don't bother to follow specific people, just tags so that I can see all of the things that get posted for my fandom.

[nyxelestia]

Different angle, same problem. Tumblr is not built for extensive discussion, regardless of how you find interesting posts about your interests in the first place. The problem isn't just finding stuff, it's being able to do things with that stuff once you find it, things beyond a bit of back-and-forth or one-way conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

The tags often get inundated with random crap, which is my issue with Tumblr tags.