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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-05 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2499 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2499 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Questionable Content)


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[Transformers]


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[Sherlock Holmes/C. Auguste Dupin]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Obscurus Lupa Presents]


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[k-pop]


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[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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[Neil Gaiman, Doctor Who]


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[Teen Wolf]














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Yesterday I learned

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Power Girl and Supergirl are the same person. I had absolutely no idea.

Re: Yesterday I learned

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Technically, yes and no.

And I prefer Power Girl way, way much over Supergirl.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-06 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Only sort of. In post-Crisis continuity Powergirl is an AU version of Supergirl from Earth-2 (which was erased from continuity in 1985) who had something of a convoluted background that did not get cleared up for good (she regains her memories of Earth-2) for 20 years. The regular main-universe Kryptonian Supergirl died in 1985 before being erased from continuity, and was reintroduced into continuity in the early 2000s as a heretofore-unknown escapee of the destruction of Krypton. They're ultimately separate characters.

Re: Yesterday I learned

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

...I am now even more confused.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-06 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
WELCOME TO COMICS! \:D/

Here, tl;dr - in post-Crisis (1985-2011) continuity Powergirl (with the boob window) is AU Supergirl who survived the 1985 reboot but had no memory of it for 20 years, actual main-universe Supergirl (with the skirt and cape and all) wasn't re-introduced into continuity for about 18 years* **

* not counting the weird clone thing Lex Luthor created that was around in the 90s, she got erased from existence in 2005 anyway so it's moot, disregard

** there's a pre-Crisis version of Supergirl from the 50s-70s eras, she died in the 1985 reboot
Edited 2013-11-06 00:51 (UTC)
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Which one was the Atlantean Power Girl?
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-06 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Same one. Her continuity was somewhat convoluted after the 1985 reboot, and she was told early on that she was Atlantean and her powers were magic-based (I recall her having trouble with said powers after a life-threatening injury she sustained during her tenure in Justice League International.) That whole thing didn't get cleared up until 2005.

As messy as her post-Crisis background was, it doesn't hold a candle to the clusterfuck that was Hawkman or Wonder Girl. I think they got so frustrated trying to work out Hawkman's origin they ended up just not using him for a while. That's why Zauriel was introduced (I like him better than Hawkman anyway) because the Justice League needed a, ahem, wingman.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wingman..! Did you forget your sunglasses there?
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DC comics is weird with its reboots. Though there was a Brit comic, whose name I forget, but they had a Superhero Skull-Faced alien that became his own son at one point. I don't think DC have done that one yet.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. Powergirl is from an alternate universe where all kryptonian women have super estrogen. And Lois Lane has a goatee.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-11-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I wouldn't call them the same person. They're both Superman's cousin, Kara, but the lives they lived very different lives (be it Earth-One vs Earth-Two, New Earth vs Earth-Two, New Earth vs Earth-2*, or Prime Earth vs Earth 2**) and became very different people. Details differ from continuity to continuity (of all of them, they're closest in current continuity), but they're very different people, and have been from PG's first appearance.

* There were, at one point, two different Power Girls, from two different variants of Earth-Two/2.
** Not sure if the spelling variants have any official standing, but they are a good shorthand for which iteration of the universe is in question - Spelled out means pre-Crisis, number with a hyphen is post-Infinite Crisis, number without a hyphen is current continuity.
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-06 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
i did not know that about the spelling!
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-11-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, I'm not sure if it has any official standing (but it is consistent with what I have from each of the three eras where it matters, though I'm sure the pre-Crisis version probably used both -Two and -2), but it is a fairly easy short-hand (once the premise has been established), and is what the DC Wikia uses to keep them straight. (I'm pretty sure I picked it up from there, rather than noting the pattern myself.)
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Re: Yesterday I learned

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2013-11-06 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah yeah! Technically yes and no! Also, if you have the time, you should definitely read the JSA Classified with her. Even without wiki'ing noise about crisis and how it flopped continuities around, or dropped characters into different alternate universes, it does a good job of explaining it imo :)