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fandomsecrets2013-11-07 06:20 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2501
⌈ Secret Post #2501 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[American Horror Story]
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[Beverly Hills, 90210]
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[Homeland]
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[Skins]
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[Signs]
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[Downton Abbey]
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[Epic Rap Battles of History]
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[Mass Effect]
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[orange is the new black]
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[The Swapper]
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[Rune Factory 4]
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[Skyrim]
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Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
For starters, talking about europe as a cohesive whole is invariably ridiculous, and especially in something like this.
They also clearly didn't say anything about race relations being better elsewhere, and were specifically talking about segregation. Which does seem to be an issue in the US it isn't elsewhere. I'd expand but Ariakas has covered the gist of it below. The only time I've seen anything even close to it is in Germany, where there was an informal rule at work that the turkish people sat at one table, and the germans/misc foreigners sat at another - even if you tried to reach out both sides would shut you down.
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)Haven't seen this informal rule in Germany yet - and my work colleague is turkish. We share an office and a table for lunch. :)
Was this rule at construction work where a lot of different groups are often working together? Sometimes people want to be among their own (especially when there are language barriers).
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
This is kind of ludicrous. Are you trying to argue that black people and white people never share offices and eat lunch together?
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This might be because I'm a native speaker and you learned in school? My writing style might be too colloquial.
Also, you can talk directly to me. I'm right here, in this thread. You're being a jerk.
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)This is kind of ludicrous. Are you trying to argue that black people and white people never share offices and eat lunch together?
Where the hell did you get that from? They only said (in an answer to the previous comment) that no, they don't share the experience that Turkish and German people only have their lunch in different groups in Germany.
For someone who is such a great native speaker, your reading comprehension sucks.
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
And again, yes racism exists in the UK. The BNP, UKIP, and half the football fans are unquestionably awful. But it exists in a different form to the US as I experienced it, and more generally as I have seen potrayed.
Which you being a history major should be aware comes from tremendously different backgrounds regarding minority groups coming here. The US with it being dominated by former slaves, and the UK accepting large amounts of immigrants to rebuild post war (alongside the history of being a colonial empire).
It doesn't seem unreasonable to suggest this might have noticeable impact upon modern race relations?
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
It isn't unreasonable to suggest that this would have a noticeable impact--my problem is that you're taking such deeply troubled places as Alabama and Florida and painting the entire nation with that brush. Which is not to say that racism doesn't exist up north where I am; merely that things are going to be very different. It's also a bit of a conceit to act like slavery is the only thing that impacted American race relations. What about shifts in immigration patterns? Indigenous nations? Do we only have two racial groups in the US, now?
I'd also argue that people of color can sit with, go to church with, and live with whomever they want; the black kids sitting together at lunch in 2013 doesn't mean the white kids aren't allowing them at their table. There's a deep history behind communities of color hanging together and to act like they should just integrate because we should all hold hands and sing kumbaya and pretend that history doesn't matter to them is a bit problematic to say the least.
Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America
We shop in the same stores--what the heck are you talking about? Were you in a place that had a special African American Mall or something? Or are you saying that clothing in different styles is never sold in the same stores?