[ SECRET POST #2502 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2502 ⌋

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Comments

[ill_omened]

Imagine I'm going to regret this, but would like to know more?

[(Anonymous)]

"There's yet another different type of love depicted in the Sakura route. It really expresses the dark sides that all women have, but how men can accept that and love women regardless. Something akin to the "dignity of men" comes across."

Maybe it's just me, but this sounds very patronizing.

[(Anonymous)]

....lol? The 'dark side' all women have? What the fuck? This guy sounds like a douchebag to me

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. He could have talked about Sakura having a dark side and Shirou loving her despite it, but generalizing? Not cool.

[(Anonymous)]

EEEehhhh sounds like typical male bullshit, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't that Nasu saying that, not Urobuchi?

[(Anonymous)]

Nope: http://www.tsukikan.com/misc/nasu-kinoko-takeuchi-takashi-urobuchi-gen-special-forum.html

[(Anonymous)]

I realize this is going to sound like an excuse, but keep in mind a lot of interviews with anime directors are translated by 4chan users with fifth-hand knowledge of Japanese, and sometimes just outright made-up.

[(Anonymous)]

Somehow I reaaaaally doubt this is what he said; it doesn't square at all with her story. She loved that piano guy, he didn't love her. This is the whole reason she starts losing it, because he doesn't love her and she realizes she has that darkness in her bitterness toward him and her friends. Then one of her major moments of madness is about men not caring about women who love them, that overheard conversation on the train with the two guys insulting a girlfriend. Her story ends with a girl caring enough to fight to save her, even if that's ultimately futile and she can only die to make sure Sakura's despair won't undermine what her dream was any longer.

There is zero attempt to make men seem to possess dignity in Sakura's arc. I'd believe the quote if that was supposed to be "dignity of humanity", but the canon itself just does not have a single hint of "oh, though women have dark sides exemplified by Sakura, men accept that and still love them".

[(Anonymous)]

wat

[iggy]

You're thinking of Sayaka. Sakura is a character from the Fate Series.

[(Anonymous)]

maybe because that's not sakura it's sayaka?

[(Anonymous)]

beat to it

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, some of the things he says in interviews makes me side-eye him tbh.

But you have to remember a) you read a translation and a lot of things get mistranslated even if it's just one pronoun and b) maybe most Japanese men have the same mindset and it's normal for them to think like this. /shrugs

[nachtmusik]

1. Source please? I'd like to see the actual interview for context and such.

2. I wonder how well this is translated. It's worded weirdly.

3. Have you even played Fate/Stay Night? Because there is a lot going on in the VN with women seeming ideal, but then having flaws, aka actually being people, and Sakura is easily the most extreme case.

I feel like this quote can't really be judged without some more context.