[ SECRET POST #2503 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2503 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's nice, but you're wrong. You can get mad at science if you want for finding certain trends among all cultures, and very sound theory about the science of choosing mates per physical appearance, and keep your wishy-washy "it's all entirely 100% relative" stuff if it makes you feel better, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

NA I'd like to see what skience (I have two science-related degrees and have studied ev psych) has to say about my choice of "mate" (I'm a lesbian and my preferences in face and body type have very little to do with what science says I should find attractive.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a lesbian, too, so I'm not sure what card you're trying to play. It certainly doesn't negate the research done that shows people still, in general, find facial symmetry and other characteristics indicative of a "healthy" person to be more attractive. If you're arguing against the research, by all means, but don't hide behind two "science related degrees" and your gayness to insist that beauty is totally relative and entirely a result of culture.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt No, my dear, merely that I appear to be an exception to the rule ev psych people insist on, and I cringe at you blithely talking in general terms about "mates". You're trying to generalise all people in order to generalise about universal standards of beauty, I'm trying to say it doesn't explain everything or everyone. Your logic is faulty.

[(Anonymous)]

My logic? Oh please, I've been very careful to use words like "trends" and "generally" - as would be the conclusion of such research anyway - obviously there are exceptions. Saying that research indicates that people generally do find certain traits attractive independent of culture doesn't mean I'm telling everyone who they are allowed to and not allowed to be attracted to. Don't know where you got that, considering your original argument was "beauty is totally relative and a result of culture" and now it's... "how dare you"?

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DA

Geez, this got out of hand fast...

Look, I have to chime in and say that other anon is at least right that scientific studies have been conducted to determine whether such a concept as "universal standard of beauty" can be proven to exist. And while of course no tests are absolutely conclusive and the conclusions only pointed toward trends and commonalities, some of the tests do indicate that people have purely biological impulses that steer them toward certain traits in potential partners: one such test involved a blind trial of monitoring subtle hormonal cues the body gives off when a subject is given different scents to smell from several individuals. It's got nothing to do with the ev-psych school, or what the media believes you should find attractive.

And before you bring it up, the test subjects were screened by gender, age and sexuality. But really, I find it weird and irrelevant that you even brought up being a lesbian in the first place, because it's not like we're arguing that gender is an universal standard of attraction. You can still fall into general biological trends even within the boundary of your sexual orientation.