[ SECRET POST #2505 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2505 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/C2kP0PX.jpg

[iceyred]

You and everybody else in school.

[diet_poison]

Yep. *nods*

[gondremark]

A while back I wrote a rather gushy, fannish essay (it was constructed like a blog post with an extra editing/spellchecking pass) about how Shakespeare's Henry V is just totally the best and John Keats' poetry is totally swoon-worthy.
The assignment was to write about why literature is meaningful to society.
I got an A+

That turned out to be the best class I ever took.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, in a lot of ways writing a paper is like writing fanfiction--or at least, writing a critical paper on literature is writing fanfiction. Both are ways of sifting and examining the text from other perspectives, and talking back to the text. Only one is respectable and the other isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

writing a critical paper on literature is writing fanfiction.
Thinking this way was how I learned to love English classes as a teenager. Analyzing characters, motivations and relationships in literature became a lot more fun when I realized I already did it recreationally. (and I still ship pairings from things we were required to read. Requested Hamlet/Horatio for Yuletide at one point. Good times.)

[blitzwing]

Really? I find writing articles and essays so much easier than writing fanfiction. And if you get to pick the subject matter, articles can be just as much fun.

[cordialcount]

+1 It's been a few years, but when I had to write papers and it came to crunch time, I could churn out two thousand words in an hour if I had to. Fic is like dragging a kelp monster through molasses in comparison-- happens at 10% of the speed, and I get to be less confident in the value of the results. :D

[blitzwing]

Yeah, it's just so much easier than writing fanfic or original fiction. You just decide on what you need to talk about in the paper, fix your structure with an outline, and then fill in the blanks. The information for the most part already exists and just needs to be analyzed.

I wish I could do that with fanfic and fiction. (here's hoping OP or likeminded people can share the trick for their fanfic-outpouring wiht us). I wonder what it is that makes non-fic easy for us and fanfic hard, and the opposite for other people.

*shingeki no brofist*

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Fic writing... it's kind of like getting over a hill with a steep starting incline and a gentle downslope; once I muster the effort to actually start writing and keep going, the ideas seem to flow and after my beta takes a few whacks at it it's actually pretty fun posting it up to ff.n and getting reviews!

... actually I bet if I could get reviews on articles like with fanfic it would be SO MUCH MORE AWESOME.

[(Anonymous)]

What does this even mean? Writing a paper or article isn't fundamentally different from writing fanfiction, except that one is fiction and one isn't. It should be obvious why writing a paper can't be anymore like fanfiction than it is.

...unless you mean you want papers to require less research, in which case, what sort of shitty fanfiction are you writing, and have you ever heard of the Hetalia fandom? Some of their porn fics could double as history books.

[chardmonster]

I think they just mean that it isn't as enjoyable. Which makes sense, especially in subjects that expect you to write very dry stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

That's fair enough, but it's also school. You have to get pretty far in school before you get to write about subjects you enjoy. (Which you know, obviously.)

I don't know, I see this complaint a lot and I never understand it.

[chardmonster]

You have to get pretty far in school before you get to write about subjects you enjoy

NOT NECESSARILY! But you do often have to get in at least a year or two before you get the cool profs who don't mind creativity.

In other words enroll in the seminar you think might be too hard for you.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

It's the enjoyability. I can happily imagine scenarios with characters doing this and that and brainstorm with my beta over plot ideas and whatnot.

It's kind of harder to do that with a journal article. :P

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, that's understandable. I'm not sure there's anyway to change that aspect of journal writing, though, so all I can recommend is powering through it. Everyone has work vs hobby conflicts, I'm afraid. :/

I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE

[chardmonster]

J'ACCUSE

Also--it can be, but you have to be really into the topic and have either a prof or an audience who doesn't mind being creative (read: not boring). We're actually encouraged to do this in grad school for history. But you still need to back everything up with footnotes, and you don't get to write pwp dubcon in the middle. At least not in the draft you hand in.

Re: I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE

[blitzwing]

I think you could work in some PWP dubcon. Make it a metaphor for invasion, like the Hetalia writers do.

Re: I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE

[chardmonster]

CRINGE

Re: I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

Yeah not happening. At least I don't think you can do that when you're writing in the physical sciences. :P

Now I would sit down and read the thesis of anyone who managed to with a straight face analyze PWP hetalia dubcon even though I'm not even a fan of Hetalia.

Re: I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE

[(Anonymous)]

Biology!Anon here.

Yeah, i'm looking at all these previous replies from people in the humanities about similiarities between essays and fanfic and I'm like "wow, that's not possible in my field at ALL." They don't even like the present tense.

And yeah, I'm currently writing a paper as well. I feel you.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a shame you don't find it as easy going, OP. :c

I tend to write most of my fics around essay-due time, because once my brain is in the writing mode, that's it. I adore doing both. I love research and the, idk, science of writing an essay, and an essay spills out fast and easy and I end up with something I'm proud of. Whereas with fics, I either write at about half the speed or double, and always end up looking at it with a vaguely meeehhhh feeling at the end. But it's much more relaxing.

... Now back to my literature essay!

[rbhudson]

Link to the journal article? I'm curious

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v111/i16/e162501

[(Anonymous)]

I hear you, OP, and I sympathize :-)

OTOH there are some writers out there that I wish would take the opposite approach. Like, you know, running a spellchecker on their work before giving it to anyone else. Doing a spot of due diligence on those elements that actually require some research to get right. Submitting it for peer review so that the published version wasn't totally cringeworthy. That kind of thing.