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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-11 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2505 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2505 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-12 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
No seed is "owed" earth and water and sunshine, either, but getting those things can mean the difference between flourishing and withering. That's just the way it works.

THIS. It's not "wanting asspats," for crying out loud (okay, I've run across a few writers for whom it clearly was; you can tell because they whine at the people who are already reading and commenting). It's wanting to participate, trade ideas, and know that we've made someone happy other than ourselves. None of which happens when the crickets are all we can hear. Kudos or favorites are vastly better than nothing, and I'll gladly take either one, but they're not especially good fuel for keeping me writing. It's the exchanges of ideas, the kind LJ fandom was great for, that really kept the words and plots flowing for me.

I was in fandom on LJ and I loved some of the things that would happen, the way people built on or responded to each other's stories. Someone would write things from one viewpoint; someone else would counter with a different take; a conversation would start and a third writer would get a whole new plot from that. It was hella fun. Often wanky, but if you ignored the wankers, which you usually could if you wanted to, it was a great place to be. The rise of Tumblr killed it, and I don't hate Tumblr, but it's a sad and thin replacement for the kind of community I knew and loved.
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I thought this is what fandom was supposed to be about, but apparently I was wrong

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-11-12 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
It's wanting to participate, trade ideas, and know that we've made someone happy other than ourselves.

This is pretty much why I joined fandom - interaction and participation. That's why I tend to dislike so many of the current fandom trends - they tend to encourage really superficial or one-way interaction, whether it's the Tumblr reblog-to-comment-and-Ask-to-talk system or the rest of fandom's "comments don't mean everything/anything" and anti-concrit culture, it's...pretty discouraging. I got into fandom for the interaction, but so many of the starting points of that interaction are getting cut out and most of the substitutes are really superficial, making that kind of in-depth interaction so much harder.