[ SECRET POST #2507 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2507 ⌋

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Comments

Re: derailment time!

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree. For two main reasons.

First, there is so much poetry even after the explosion of WWI that is still basically in the same mode as poetry before it, if somewhat less formalist, that claiming that poetry has completely disappeared is just kind of absurd. The idea that, like, Auden (much as I hate Auden) or Philip Larkin or John Betjeman or Robert Frost or poets of their ilk are writing poetry that is fundamentally different from things that you see before the war does not hold water, for me. Donald Justice, Wendell Berry, Donald Hall, Jane Kenyon - these are all poets off the top of my head who are making poetry which cannot reasonably be accused of making sense. And you could even say that this is true about some less conventional poets, I think - I mean, are the Beats like Ginsberg that far from Whitman?

And second, I think that a lot of modernist poetry does make sense, even if it is sometimes less immediately coherent than classical poetry, and I think a lot of it is beautiful and deeply meaningful. This is true even for some of the more out there stuff - but the idea that, like, Wallace Steven's "Sunday Morning" is somehow impenetrable or not beautiful, because it is modernist, or "Idea Of Order At Key West" - the idea that "J Alfred Prufrock" doesn't make sense - again, those ideas don't hold water for me. I mean, a lot of it is difficult - Eliot, Pound, a lot of their successors, these are poets whose sense does not come immediately to hand - but the sense is there nonetheless (and it's also probably worth saying that "poetic Renaissance" would not be a totally incorrect description of what Eliot and Pound were trying to do).

Re: derailment time!

[(Anonymous)]

Donald Justice, Wendell Berry, Donald Hall, Jane Kenyon - these are all poets off the top of my head who are making poetry which cannot reasonably be accused of making sense

Er. They are poets who cannot reasonable be accused of NOT making sense. I, on the other hand, can very reasonably be accused of it, especially when I leave out crucial words from my sentences...