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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-16 03:47 pm

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tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-11-16 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because if you're saying 'Santa's not real, it's just people buying stuff', and all the other kids (and some of the adults) your kid knows are saying 'of course Santa is real, he lives at the North Pole! I wrote him a letter! He brought me a Hot Wheels last year!!', your kid might, possibly, start thinking *you* are the one lying for some weird reason, instead of them.

Just a thought - kids brains don't work like adults brains, and you never know just where they'll end up with the information their given.
vethica: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I never believed in Santa (I'm not Christian). It was never an issue for me that other kids did, because I understood that different people could believe different things. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-11-16 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of four years olds don't think that way, though, you know?
vethica: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Then do you think this is an inevitability for non-Christian kids?
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-11-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Do i think what is an inevitability?
vethica: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Kids getting upset because everyone else says Santa is real and thinking their parents are lying.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-11-16 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that finding out Santa isn't real was a trauma for some of the people here, then i consider it a possibility that some kids *will* be upset at their non-Santa-believing parents when all the kids in their classroom believe (and say that non-believing kid's parents are wrong).

Mostly because presents!, probably, and the special things surrounding Santa (sending a letter to the North Pole, making 'reindeer treats', things like that).

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think tabaqui is looking at it from the perspective of Western kids who "don't have Santa" not kids raised in/from different cultures who see Christmas as just a Western holiday.

If you're brought up outside the bubble of Western culture (which is by default Christian, or at least a certain type of Christian), you're not going to be coming home from school going "You lied to me! They all say Santa's real!" because your parents will have (hopefully) already sat you down and had The Talk with you, about how we believe something different than what a lot of people in this school/town/country believe, but that doesn't make us better than anyone else, and we have to love and respect others, regardless of what they believe, etc.
vethica: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No, dude, I am Western, though. I'm just not Christian.

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Also Western here, but not "default Western Christian" so I grew up outside the bubble I mentioned. I think my point applies (or should, if the parents are half-decent at raising their kids), to any non-Christians in the state school system. (Which is the only place I can ever see tabaqui's hypothetical scenario taking place, and even then it's not plausible.)

...I think we agree? Or did I miss something?
vethica: (Default)

Re: Santa

[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No, yeah, I think we do agree. My bad. My reading comprehension is not always the greatest.

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries. I thought I was coming across argumentative or something. :-)

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions about what I'm saying. I said I'd be celebrating the myth and legend, and you assume I'm saying "it's just people buying stuff".

And kids are going to encounter a lot of different beliefs in school and life. I believe in encouraging them to understand that everyone has different beliefs and to respect those. And if they come home with stories of other kids telling them their beliefs are real and I'm lying, then we'll sit down and discuss that. Just as I would if they came home with questions about Jesus or religions.

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I am the anon below. You answered this much more clearly than I did. I agree with you!

Re: Santa

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

(JMO, so take with two truckloads of salt, and don't call me in the morning. )

"your kid might, possibly, start thinking *you* are the one lying for some weird reason, instead of them."

If a kid ever even comes close to thinking this, there is a LOT more wrong in that house then just whether or not they "believe" in Coca-Cola adverts from the 1900s the big red elf. Starting with, lack of communication between parents and child.