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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-16 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2510 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2510 ⌋

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[personal profile] hwc 2013-11-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Are you a non-native speaker? I'm ESL and I speak from experience when I say that it's basically impossible NOT to learn English in English speaking fandom. I got into it when I was in danger of failing English in school; two years later I was the best in my grade. And believe me, it wasn't because I was suddenly studying more for school. (If anything, I was actually studying less as I got so obsessed with fic for a while that I would print it out and read it during class.)

Your comment suggests that improving your English skills in or for fandom is some kind of chore, but honestly, just reading fic and watching/reading the source material in English (assuming the works originally are English) already improves your language skills so much. You don't even have to put any effort into it, fandom makes you learn English by freaking osmosis.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-17 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
This.

My English skills were suffering from lack of use before I entered fandom. But the last year they've improved greatly, just reading and writing in English. I don't know how someone could not improve writing so much in another language.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-17 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
I am, and I don't dispute what you say to be true since it was so for me as well. But we are talking about two different things. I wasn't arguing the legitimacy of learning a language via fandom (if you're so inclined), but the wisdom in judging people's shortcoming based on your fandom interactions with them. Whether or not your English improves via fandom is irrelevant, my point was that people's priorities differ and if someone doesn't find improving their language skill to be important, it's fine. Maybe fandom is the only place they even need English, we never know.

The question of priority notwithstanding, each person learns at a different pace and in their own way. It's possible what we experienced may not be true for this woman, or perhaps she's still learning by osmosis right now and won't necessarily appreciate being judged for it. In the mean time, she will use her imperfect English command to be fannish, and I find nothing particularly judgment-worthy in that.