[ SECRET POST #2511 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2511 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit]


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03.
[The Fly 1986]


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04.
[Slightly Damned]


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05.
[Game Of Thrones]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[NCIS]


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08.
[Roosterteeth]


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09.
[Mass Effect]
[Art: The Shepard Siblings, by bigcman321]


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10.
[Easy A]


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11.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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12.
[Sir David Attenborough]


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13.
[New Tricks]


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14.
[Hannibal (NBC)]









Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

People get triggered by body horror? I find that hard to believe, I highly doubt many people have been through what "body horror" actually means.

What do they use the phrase to mean?

[starphotographs]

It's really, really broad, and basically seems to mean "anything gross that happens to a human body." Which... Isn't what body horror means. Gross things happen to people in all kinds of movies!

[(Anonymous)]

So they're conflating plain old disease or dismemberment with body horror? That's silly.

Do you tell them they're warning people about a trigger that doesn't, by definition, exist? I mean the whole point of body horror is shit that can't and doesn't happen to real people.

[(Anonymous)]

Even though it couldn't be an actual PTSD trigger, I don't think it's a bad thing to warn for.

[(Anonymous)]

Warn, ok.
Trigger warn, not ok.

Let's not devalue triggers by equating them with "things that make me uncomfortable."

+1

[gondremark]

Yes please.

[starphotographs]

I think if they're going to warn for this stuff, they should call it something that isn't already entrenched as a specific term.

I mean, both Videodrome and Coraline have a body horror warning on that Movie Triggers site. One is body horror. One is an animated fantasy movie.

[gondremark]

I haven't seen the movie, but the book Coraline has the notion eyes being replaced with buttons. It's not graphic and it doesn't actually happen (we meet some characters who have buttons for eyes, and not wanting her eyes replaced with buttons is a theme throughout the story and a motivation for getting out of the twisted fantasy world) but as far as kid's books go, Coraline comes pretty close to body horror.

[(Anonymous)]

Movie had it too, which made me puzzled about it not being body horror.

[starphotographs]

Hmm, it's kind of hard to point to why I don't think it is, because body horror is kind of like porn... Erm, in the "you know it when I see it" sense, that is. :P

But kind of comes down to:

1. Body horror usually has a certain aesthetic that goes with it, and button eyes don't quite fit with that.
2. The actual process isn't lingered over in the way you usually see with the mutilations in body horror works.
3. If I recall correctly (and I might not, it's been a while since I saw the movie and even longer since I read the book), a lot of the fear associated with the button eyes was more related to control and entrapment than to the alteration itself. Body horror is different from regular gore/pain/transformation scenes in that the fear and gross-out factors come from the idea of your body being altered, turning against you, or escaping your control, and not so much from the pain or danger itself.

At least, that's how I always understood it! I might be off, or it might just be subjective.

[gondremark]

It must be a case of Your Mileage May Vary. I was properly squicked out (in a good way!) about the notion of button eye replacements, because even though the book didn't dwell on the mechanics of the change or even show it happening, I have a serious eye thing and a needle thing, so that all combined and reading Coraline made me think about my eyes a little too much and too viscerally (again, in a good way).

It is like porn, everyone has their own odd kinks and fetishes and things and comes at it differently, and what works for one might do nothing for another. And yes, you know it when you see it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just you. That whole notion squicked the hell of of me on a visceral level--like you, in a good way, because it was supposed to.

[starphotographs]

They are, and it is!

Some of the stuff they tack it on to is impossible, but it's frequently applied to one-off scenes in standard horror or sci-fi movies that I wouldn't consider body horror proper.

[gondremark]

I suppose some people could be so very terribly squicked out by it that is makes them panicy or something. It's a good idea to let the reader know ahead of time that a story has people getting turned inside out or whatever.
I don't believe in trigger warnings, just be forthcoming about the level of violence, gore, explicit sex, squicky weirdness, creepy ghostliness, spiders, etc. and let the reader decide if it's the sort of thing they want to avoid or not. I've seen trigger warnings for "mentions of food" (yes, food, not even dieting or questionable eating habits, just, food, like people eat every day).

Just put something like this at the beginning of your story
Note: "Attack of the undead Man-eating Spiders from Mars" is about zombie spiders eating people, and there's a lot of blood and guts, and there's a sex scene, too. and there you have it, the squeamish, the arachnophobes, and those who would rather not read about sex right now, and those who were looking for a quietly creepy story know to give this one a pass.