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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-17 04:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2511 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2511 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Hobbit]


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03.
[The Fly 1986]


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04.
[Slightly Damned]


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05.
[Game Of Thrones]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[NCIS]


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08.
[Roosterteeth]


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09.
[Mass Effect]
[Art: The Shepard Siblings, by bigcman321]


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10.
[Easy A]


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11.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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12.
[Sir David Attenborough]


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13.
[New Tricks]


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14.
[Hannibal (NBC)]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 078 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
ariakas: (lol hikawa)

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-18 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. You get choices, but a limited number of choices. And no matter what you choose, Shepard is always someone who became an Elite Speess Murheen. There are a limited number of people who a) could pull that off, and b) would want to. If N7 is anything like our elite special forces now, only a tiny percentage of an already tiny group even make it in, and they all have common characteristics.

The SMT fandom has the same issue. You have a character who has plenty of choices as to what they do/day/date, but at the end of the day there are still scenes where the character always does the same thing, people they don't date, things they don't say, and expressions they always make. Taking it as a "free pass to make your own character" is somewhat missing the point.

(That said, in the much more populous Japanese fandom at least, I find this give rise to precisely two types of interpretations of SMT protagonists: the first being as close to canon as they can within the parameters of the choices they made in the game, the second being an ultra kawaii woobie who takes it up the ass from one of the older, larger males in the cast. Doesn't matter what the character is like in canon. Doesn't mater that the Demi-fiend spends 99% of the game - the same game we all played and whose expressions we all saw - scowling and snarling. He's a kawaii weepy uke chans who is suuuuper sweet and friendly!)
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ariakas: (man walks on fucking moon)

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-18 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't that describe the mischaracterization of like 99% of male protagonists in the history of fandom.

Yes.

Because being sweet and cute and submissive are ideal characteristics for women (particularly in Japanese society) so that the protagonist can become a stand-in for (an idealized version of) the author, fulfilling fantasies of sleeping with said attractive, masculine male characters without fear of judgement (for creating a self-insert, or having said desires) or sexual elements that might hit too close to home.

The other half are actually trying to write the damned character.

/shit everyone already knows but people get mad if you say it anyway