[ SECRET POST #2512 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2512 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

in liberal circles it is generally Christianity, a religion that most Americans are much more familiar with, where every problematic element is exposed and dissected.
And did you ever think of why that is? By these so-called "liberal circles," I'm assuming you mean Western liberal circles. In the West, Christianity is the majority religion. It just is - among people that are religious at all, Christianity dominates in the West. Islam is a minority in the West. It's a fringe group, a minority interest. Obviously that's why "liberal circles" criticize Christianity in general and criticize Islam comparatively less - it's a majority vs. minority thing.

If you live in the West, espousing the values of Christianity isn't necessary. You've been told your whole life that good = Christian and that's that. Islam is what's strange and foreign. There's a reason behind the observation that you made.

[diet_poison]

There's a reason but is it a good one? Majority v. minority sounds like tit for tat unless you're specifically doing it to point out human rights issues that the majority is using their power to abuse (which certainly does happen). But you'd think really progressive circles be more concerned with any philosophy or sub-philosophy that has misogynistic/homophobic etc. attitudes

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The thing is that it's a hard balancing act between caring a lot about misogynist and homophobic attitudes in a religion, and caring a lot about religious prejudice against that religion. Especially when it really is a sub-philosophy of the religion that harbors those attitudes, and when, frankly, some people use criticism of those attitudes as a cover for prejudice (not you, or anyone in this thread, but it does happen).

Maybe progressive circles do err on the side of defending the religion. But it would be hard for it to be done perfectly, because it's a really hard line to walk, and people aren't perfect, and organizations and broad movements less so. And I think that's an important thing to do even though obviously it doesn't justify overlooking anti-Semitism and homophobia.

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I personally find hostile misogyny and homophobia to be more pressing than prejudice against religion. The latter definitely bothers me too - I've experienced it - but at the same time, much of the time those prejudices are rooted in very bad experiences, it's hard to see that not all Christians/Muslims/etc. are sexist or homophobic or otherwise hateful when the loud ones are always shouting that they are and that the whole group believes this etc., and of course, religious beliefs are a choice, while gender, sexuality, race, and ethnicity are not.