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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-19 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #2513 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2513 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early post!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
"paying for something that's supposed to be free" is really rubbing me the wrong way. We make fanfic free, it's not supposed to be anything.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
exactly. once upon a time, however, in the dusty, distant annuls of time, fanfiction was not free. one had to find the appropriate usenet groups where one could get the address to pay one's subscription fee to be mailed a hard copy newsletter with the latest pieces of fanfiction. and yet, when the information highway paved over the usenets and snail-mail subscription clubs, fanart was allowed to remain pay-for-benefit, while fanfiction was forced to give up any vestige of remuneration. writers were so excited to have their work seen, that they gave it away, purely for accolades. there was a brief surge of that in many artistic communities, which is where things like "do this work for me, and you'll get exposure to a wider market in lieu of pay" comes from, and why it still lingers. artists, however, have been largely intelligent enough to curb a great deal of that, and now, it's commonplace for one to pay a fee for their art, even if the original property does not belong to the artist in question.

and yet, anytime that a writer attempts the same, they are derided and set upon. it confuses me.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
"one could get the address to pay one's subscription fee to be mailed a hard copy newsletter with the latest pieces of fanfiction."

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
very well. send me a fee and your address, and I will mail to you a sheaf of papers with words on them.

oh, wait. you wish the words to make sense? to pertain to your interests? to have plot and character and ingenuity?

oh, well, then, that's free, yes?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, send me a fee and I'll write a story for you!

I'll post in online so everyone can read it for free (and I'm not telling you this, but I may decide to delete it so you may not be able to read it again in the future).

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
"fanart was allowed to remain pay-for-benefit"

When is this the case, aside from commissions? Tell me what artists are charging people to look at their blog where they post their non-commissioned, drew-it-in-their-free-time, I'm-drawing-my-own-ideas fanart, as opposed to posting their work for everyone to see for free in tumblr and DA.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
this

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Were the authors paid for that fanfic? Did they have a salary that came from the magazines' profits? Was the fanfic commission Or was the money just used to keep the continued distribution of it, and submitting your fic through them was the only way to make it widely available?

Wait, wikipedia has the answer: "Typically, publishers, editors and contributors of articles or illustrations to fanzines receive no financial compensation."
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[personal profile] kryptoncat 2013-11-20 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
And in the even further past, before there were copyright laws, all fanfics were legal!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-20 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's not supposed to be a business either. As I wrote about the fan-zines produced and distributed by fans below, they were non-profit.