[ SECRET POST #2513 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2513 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early post!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I have been reading the comments and whatnot from this place and the sense of entitlement I see is grossing me out.

The person who writes/draws/knits/paper-crafts/WHATEVERs is the one that gets to decide what happens to their creations. PERIOD. There's no 'but it's fanfiction' about it.

Even if tomorrow X fanfic author went "You know what, I am never doing anything written ever again, unless people pay me my weight in peanuts for every new chapter" IT'S STILL THEIR GORRAM CHOICE, and you can either start acquiring peanuts and a large envelope or walk away, and that's about it. Poor marketing choice? Probably yes, or no, depending on how good they are. Perhaps they are worth the goddamn peanuts, or perhaps not and there goes their profit.

Copyright laws might go one way or the other with this, and that is something the author will have to deal with, but whatever demands are made by anyone who isn't the owner of the original content is mute.

All I'm hearing here is a bunch of people offended over someone else managing to make money via a legitimate skill that takes as much time and effort as any other creative production, only this is non-hard-copy writing so, omg how dare they not cater to our right to free reading material on the internet.

Btw, fanart being sold by artists at conventions is encouraged even by the companies that own the rights. These companies don't see a cent of the profit these fanart images make, and they are ok with this. How about that.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

To bring the fanart comparison back, if I were to draw part of a piece and only fill up small sections up as a was paid by different people it'd be a jerk thing to do. Because i'd have several people paying me for what might not ever be a finished piece. It's not fair to them. If you want to do a commission, one person for one piece of work and they get what they want.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you're thinking of it wrong in terms of the fanart. Instead of one piece, think of it like a comic strip. Different people pay for one strip, self-contained within the larger storyline. It's complete without finishing the comic and has characters/plot the payer wants.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with the person above me, it's not as if it was one large piece of one picture.

There are two ways to it: One of them is as if it were a self-conclusive chapter of a series... idk, Supernatural, to say a fandom. Things happen in the chapter, you get (or not, and that's up to the author, depending on which fic it is) to decide who's this chapter's bad guy, and maybe a bit of what happens, and then the writer makes the chapter. Perhaps there's a bit of main plot also going on in places, perhaps not, but the scene closes and it's a thing in itself.

Then there is the bazillion-pages epic thing with lots of connected chapters, which is the one I assume you are referring to.

Now the thing is, you never knew in the first place if the author was going to finish the whole story. You are now owed and ending to fanfiction. The author didn't at any moment say "pay me, and I will finish this in the next X amount of words", and NO ONE who paid for it assumed it worked like that. Everyone understands this fic might not get finished. Those who paid just wanted to see it go on some more.

When you buy a chapter of something, you pay for a certain minimum amount of words and maybe a concept or scene going on, not for a measure of relevance, or how far the story goes in terms of plot.

No one mentioned it much, but I have seen a very similar thing going on with comics that support themselves on donations, where people tip in a bit of money, sometimes just cents, until a certain amount is reached, and then the author makes a couple of pages more. It's a thing, and it works because everyone wants to see the thing go on. If they want to see the whole comic getting finished, they can fork a LOT of money and pay for it, but if they can't, this way benefits everyone. If it never again reaches the needed amount to keep ongoing, well, bad luck, but that's it.

[(Anonymous)]

EDIT: Where is says "You are now owed and ending to fanfiction." it should read "You are now owed and ending to fanfiction."

Apologies for the typo.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

thank you
I would give you, like, 3 peanuts for this comment alone

[(Anonymous)]

Well, in some countries, selling fanart is tolerated. But not everywhere. In my country, selling fanart (or fan-made merchandise) at conventions is forbidden and people who do it anyway are first asked to stop and put the fanart away and, if they don't comply, can be kicked out. So no, it's neither allowed, nor encouraged.

I'm a moderator an art platform and we have to constantly remind people that they are not allowed to sell fanart. Because if they do and someone puts it in their heads to fuck us over, the site's going down for hosting copyright infringing stuff. So it's also not only a matter of "well, it's the artist's problem". Not every country has the same laws, you know?