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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-20 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2514 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2514 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you. I STILL have no idea what 'Jim' is supposed to mean in Romulan in 'My Enemy, My Ally', and I've read that book once a year since I was 11. Were we supposed to be able to figure out from the book or was it deliberately vague?

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-11-21 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
My memory may be off, but I think it was supposed to mean "Enterprise".

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
now see, that was one of the possibilities I considered, but it didn't seem as obvious as I felt like it was supposed to be...sigh. I think because I first read it when I was so young that permanently affected my ability to understand it properly. XD
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2013-11-21 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't either, and I've had a prolonged discussion with some fellow fans about it. "Enterprise" is a favorite, but also variations on a theme of 'chaos'/'trickster'/'lucky' etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I want to know some fellow fans I can have prolonged discussions about the Star Trek novels with. ;_;

In addition, none of the other Rihannsu seem to crack up on hearing Ael call him 'Jim', so it occurred to me that it only had a personal meaning to Ael that made it funny...so I thought that maybe it meant the same as her 4th name, like she was laughing at how unsubtle the universe was being at hammering home the connection between the two of them.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It depends. Will people whine about the canon not supporting the creator's head canon, and say, "Well, it doesn't matter!" because it's not in the original content, but in an afterward or author's note?

Because I agree with you, except it caused a lot of arguments among fans when the creator said, "This and this and this!" but it wasn't in the 'official canon'.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Will we ever find out what Titania whispered in Fox's ear that made her react with such surprise?

JUST TELL US GREG WEISMAN!!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm still waiting to find out what Maureen O'Hara whispered into John Wayne's ear at the end of The Quiet Man to make him look so shocked!

Given that John Wayne is dead and M. O'H. has said she'd take the secret to her grave, I guess we'll never know :'-(

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
My guess was always that she told him she was pregnant...but hey. *L*
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-11-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
This secret reminds me of The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe. It's written as a sort of puzzle collection that happens to be a story, presenting one mystery after another along with various clues to their solutions. I think it even has a difficulty curve--there are three parts to the story, with each part's mystery relying on the previous parts, and each part's clues are more jumbled and fragmented. Unfortunately for me, I couldn't even figure out the first mystery, let alone the third, and Wolfe never outright states the answers. (By the end of the third mystery, I'd pieced together a massive revelation about the in-universe author of the second part, but I still couldn't figure out enough to understand the story's ending.)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand if you're talking about a mystery or something, but otherwise...you don't live in the author's head. There is no way for them to ever have time to give you every single detail about a world.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Don't ever read A Series of Unfortunate Events.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
That was definitely the first book I thought of when I read this secret.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-11-21 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hah. Yeah, this. For what it's worth, while I'm usually with the OP on this, I loved ASOUE. I appreciated that it was supposed to be all 'In real life you don't get all the answers and stuff' and preserve the mystery. I'm really lookin forwar to reading the second All The Wrong Questions book, I've totally missed Lemony Snicket.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Are we talking crucial plot information, or just interesting world-building or character details? Because if every writer wrote down all the details that they came up with that never made it into the book, I think the list of details would usually be longer than the story itself.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
More like plot information -- mysteries, things the author thinks they're dropping hints for, things people other than me are apparently able to figure out somehow.

...although I'd happily take the fourteen volumes of worldbuilding and character details, too, but I'm not frustrated when they aren't there.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, I hate this too -- especially when all people can talk about is the subtext I'm apparently too dim to get. And I have a bad habit of skimming descriptive passages, which only makes it worse.
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[personal profile] bored_bitch 2013-11-21 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I love worldbuilding and the little background details like that.

More series need collections of art and author's notes.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-21 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Or a glossary. Especially fantasy setting with lots and lots of unpronounceable names. Glossaries with phonetic transcriptions. That would be nice.

Reminds me of this:

http://english.bouletcorp.com/2013/10/14/fantasy/

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
"The Stoning Of Soraya M." with Jim Caviezel and Shohreh Aghdashloo, "La Haine", HBO's "House Of Saddam", "The White Balloon", "Uzhpizin", "Yossi and Jaeger"...