[ SECRET POST #2514 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2514 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Orson Scott Card

[(Anonymous)]

Ehh...I hate it when stuff like this comes up about OSC because I don't like even sounding like I'm defending him, but in *general*, I think 'homoeroticism' is massively overused by fandoms. In a lot of places, being naked in the same room when you're young is not considered sexual at all. The only people who read something sexual into that are people who didn't grow up in that kind of environment and associate nakedness IMMEDIATELY with sex and eroticism.

It's also a bad habit of fandoms to immediately assume anyone who is friends has some sort of romantic inclination going on.

Re: Orson Scott Card

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. I agree with those points in general, it's just something that I really do see in Ender's Game. And it's not just being naked in general, it's especially the shower fight scene that kind of leads me to think that.

And it's not something that I'm using to attack the book. I think it's really interesting. There's this combination of things - lust, and intimacy, and love, and violence, and death, and power - and how OSC traces the combinations of those things, and Ender's attitude towards them, and the shifting between and combination of revulsion and attraction towards those things - is on a pretty basic level the reason that I think Ender's Game is a good book. So it's not the only thing in the book, but I do think it's one of the elements.

What I think is weird is less the presence of homoeroticism in a book by someone with anti-gay views, and more something specific to OSC as writer. He has such a weird progression as a writer that it makes me wonder whether the prejudice was always present but veiled, or whether it developed at some point, or to put it another way, to wonder what his attitudes were at the time when he was writing Ender's Game. But that's not really central to the point, I guess.