[ SECRET POST #291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #291 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni due to lack of computer and early due to class.

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 105 secrets from Secret Submission Post #042.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
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Current Secret Submission Post: here.
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Comments

[fenrisulfr.livejournal.com]

Actually, "nigger" is still terribly controversial in the black community. It's still a very hurtful word for many, even if parts of the black hip-hop community have embraced it.

Plus, no matter whether they're thinking about gays or not when they say "faggot," it's still a derogatory term for gay men. As long as it's still used against gay men, it will be about gay men, period. It doesn't matter if you have personally decided that the new meaning of "fag" is "a very cuddle-able puppy." The word stings members of the gay community who have been at the receiving end of very real hate, hate that manifests in part with that word, and as long as it does that you cannot claim that it has no meaning anymore. It has very, very real meaning for some of us.

Its over-usage on the internet is definitely not a case of reclamation, because I'm pretty sure most of the people throwing it around aren't gay men using it as an ironic term for affection for one another.

[hagaren22.livejournal.com]

Lol, just left a pretty much identical comment below before I saw yours. :P

[rarebirds]

I won't claim to know much on this specifically, but I still consider parts of the black hip-hop community embracing it to be a step towards the right direction.

Well, it used to mean pork-offal meatballs, and sometimes still does, so I don't think this is entirely true. But I do understand your point. I, myself, wouldn't actually use these words outside of an internet forum (and I don't mean chat forum) unless I was completely sure of the opinion of anyone I'm talking to who may be insulted by them. But, at the same time, I myself am not insulted by the multitude of derogatory terms referring to women or bisexuals unless I'm sure the delivery is of an insulting manner, and even then I'm more likely to laugh in their face than rise to the fight.

I wasn't saying that it was, and I'm sorry it came across that way. But at the same time, the communities on the internet that do use it the most are largely male, and as the majority of homophobia normally comes from men, surely it's a step in the right direction if these males no longer see or use the term as a specifically anti-gay insult? Perhaps that's naive or hopeful of me.